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Its a rather good thread, methinks. I would put Luke above Sids, Caedus above Yoda and I think that Mace and Kun could be about equals.
In all likelihood, Luke could do a fair bit of damage with the force, but team 2 has two of the strongest Sith ever... hmmm...
I might have to go with the Sith here. Mace and Yoda wouldn't match up to either of them, so they'd be dispatched and then its 2 (possibly 3 if Kun isn't killed quickly) against Luke, and I don't think he could pull that one off.
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182How is Yoda above Caedus when his powers are on par with Luke and he knows things that luke doesn't?
Luke>sids
Yoda>caedous
mace and kun I could see it going either way and could make arguments for both sides.The way I see it though team 1 wins with difficulty possibly seeing mace die as well.
From what I've heard. And that's when he was still a Jedi. Perhaps wrong choice of words. I don't mean equals. Do you remember when it was being said that once he turned to the darkside that his powers would eclipse Luke's? I'm saying that yea, Luke is superior in areas, but Jacen is better, or knows things that Luke doesn't. But I'm NOT saying that he would defeat Luke, but as we've seen, its not a stomp for Luke either.
Point being, he's beyond that of Yoda.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
From what I've heard. And that's when he was still a Jedi. Perhaps wrong choice of words. I don't mean equals. Do you remember when it was being said that once he turned to the darkside that his powers would eclipse Luke's? I'm saying that yea, Luke is superior in areas, but Jacen is better, or knows things that Luke doesn't. But I'm NOT saying that he would defeat Luke, but as we've seen, its not a stomp for Luke either.Point being, he's beyond that of Yoda.
except when it is. Truth be told, LOTF is conflicting enough that we don't know exactly how much more powerful Luke is than Caedus. There is the ONE fight in inferno that shows us that Caedus can touch luke, and everything else in the series indicates Caedus fearing Luke, and Luke holding back when he has his multiple opportunities to off the guy.
Now, how Yoda fits into that... I would put him at the very least on par with Caedus, unless we want to say that Caedus is >ROTS Sidious, which seems unlikely, considering he (sidious) was already in the midst of performing his most impressive force feat (clouding the force for 10,000 jedi)
So i'll take team one... in a squeaky close fight.
DE Sidious will lose to Luke in saber-combat. Not quickly, but he will lose, considering DE Luke beat him.
Exar Kun is > Mace, IMO, BECAUSE of the amulets. If mace can get blade to blade with Kun before he can use the amulet, Kun is toast.
Yoda,is at the least, as explained above, ==Caedus, so i'll go team one.
THough I voted team two above, before i gave it much thought.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
From what I've heard. And that's when he was still a Jedi. Perhaps wrong choice of words. I don't mean equals. Do you remember when it was being said that once he turned to the darkside that his powers would eclipse Luke's? I'm saying that yea, Luke is superior in areas, but Jacen is better, or knows things that Luke doesn't. But I'm NOT saying that he would defeat Luke, but as we've seen, its not a stomp for Luke either.Point being, he's beyond that of Yoda.
It's made very clear from inferno on that Luke would STOMP caedous if he fights without holding back. And rather easily as well.
Ya Jacen knows stuff that Luke doesn't know and some things he flat out refuses to learn. But that point doesn't really mean anything here.
as for why yoda would beat caedous after a difficult fight you could just search yoda vs caedous and read 1 of the like 5 threads i think on why he would win.