Mister X vs luke cage

Originally posted by mummy_guy
he was inteduced years ago only once but since then no one heard of him until recentrly so no he doesnt have feats of years

i will wait for you to provide them thank you

those are only your speculations ... yes he has the ability to read his oponnents mind and know how to fight him but thats also part of his abilities overall, beside that he was trained all his life by top trainers and then killed them as was stated in thunderbolts and he knows the art of shiar and many other forms he was even able to defeat a guy without using his arms and was able to beat both blacl widow and another member of thunderbolts at same time he is a monster when it comes to skill level and those are facts so i really doubt that someone that trained so much in MA specially in the marvel universe will hurt his hands by hitting a durable skin.... which isnt even the things level of roughness

Originally posted by KingD19
Yeah, he took what I said and made it sound like I said he was metal. I said his skin is the same durability and composition of metal, his skin should feel like metal, he even references it a few times. Here's one of those times, it's doesn't pay to have unbreakable skin.

http://img109.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=64128_Daredevil_v2_-_048_-_08_122_742lo.jpg

again a durability scan of his body which we already know is durable... the same thing would happen is a simple guy was trying to stab lets say ares but seriously you dont believe someone at mister x level of training will hurt his hands on ares right? so prove me again that his skin is metal rough not only by its durability but also to the poiint it will feel like metal if you hit it

Originally posted by mummy_guy
again a durability scan of his body which we already know is durable... the same thing would happen is a simple guy was trying to stab lets say ares but seriously you dont believe someone at mister x level of training will hurt his hands on ares right? so prove me again that his skin is metal rough not only by its durability but also to the poiint it will feel like metal if you hit it

His skin is stated to be steel-titanium hard.

2 sources that say this,

http://marvel.com/universe/Cage,_Luke

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Cage_%28Earth-616%29

God tissue is dense, but it's not metal hard, which is why people like Herc and Thor, and Hulk get cut all the time. Hell, Punisher stabbed Rulk in the chest, because he's durable against blunt force trauma, not cutting/stabbing/slashing. Like Thing/Colossus/Luke Cage. Most durable people can be easily cut.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
again just because someone has years of training does not make them super-humanly durable i don't see why his skin would have to feel like metal it doesn't change the fact that he is much to durable for X

because trained martial artists in marvel universe can shatter rocks witrh there bare hands so if luke cage is durable that means mister x wont be able to give him much damage but it doesnt mean his skin will hurt or even feel something to mister x thats the point

if iron fist was able to 1 shot luke cage it already tell us he is not that durable specially when scorpion was able to beat him so hard his face was blue red which also show us his skin is not that durable at all , and yes martial artists in marvel universe and comics universe can train themselves to the point they have super human hits like karate kid or shang chi even without his chi amp

i forgot the fact that daredevil fought luke cage and was able to hit him without getting hurt which is reasnable since there is no reason a trained fighter would get hurt by hitting something that is just hard so if daredevil could hit him and doesnt get hurt that means the same thing will happen with mister x

Originally posted by KingD19
His skin is stated to be steel-titanium hard.

2 sources that say this,

http://marvel.com/universe/Cage,_Luke

http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Cage_%28Earth-616%29

God tissue is dense, but it's not metal hard, which is why people like Herc and Thor, and Hulk get cut all the time. Hell, Punisher stabbed Rulk in the chest, because he's durable against blunt force trauma, not cutting/stabbing/slashing. Like Thing/Colossus/Luke Cage. Most durable people can be easily cut.

thats the point he is only as durable and his skin is just as durable as titanium so there is no reason in hell that mister x will hurt his hands on his skin because he is a very trained martial artist who can easy match top marvel fighters

Originally posted by mummy_guy
because trained martial artists in marvel universe can shatter rocks witrh there bare hands so if luke cage is durable that means mister x wont be able to give him much damage but it doesnt mean his skin will hurt or even feel something to mister x thats the point

if iron fist was able to 1 shot luke cage it already tell us he is not that durable specially when scorpion was able to beat him so hard his face was blue red which also show us his skin is not that durable at all , and yes martial artists in marvel universe and comics universe can train themselves to the point they have super human hits like karate kid or shang chi even without his chi amp

i forgot the fact that daredevil fought luke cage and was able to hit him without getting hurt which is reasnable since there is no reason a trained fighter would get hurt by hitting something that is just hard so if daredevil could hit him and doesnt get hurt that means the same thing will happen with mister x

Iron Fist never one shotted Cage, he's taken everything IF could throw at him, and he hasn't lost one of their fights. And the guy fought Iron Clad and Hulk, saying he isn't durable is BS, he even took a hit from Wreckers crowbar, which hits with Class 100 force.

And Luke Cage gets shot without feeling it, what can X do? And X hasn't shown any strength feats, stop using things that aren't there.

As for Scorpion beating him, that was PIS, he's taken hits from Hulk and others way more powerful than Scorpion, who is actually weaker than him, and he hasn't been hurt.

And most of the rock shattering people you talk about, have some degree of super strength, like amping their attacks, or just straight out having super strength.

Here's Cage directly stating that his skin is steel hard - http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76315_HeroesForHire17p20_122_735lo.jpg

Originally posted by thanos-prime
no actually it doesn't when X actually has some feats that suggest this than you can make that claim

what??? wait a second now you are trying to tell me mister x is not as durable as daredevil? alright you know i am right and now you just grasp on straws without any base to support you

daredevil is an ordenery man without any super durability or anything only training and he can hit luke cage without getting hurt the same thing is with mister x who is also very very trained fighter who was stated to train under the training of top masters and later he killed them he was able to take out people who would beat the hell out of daredevil like taskmaster and wolverine he showed amazing skills , also it was stated that he knows shiars fighting technique which already puts him above ordenery human martial artists

Originally posted by mummy_guy
what??? wait a second now you are trying to tell me mister x is not as durable as daredevil? alright you know i am right and now you just grasp on straws without any base to support you

daredevil is an ordenery man without any super durability or anything only training and he can hit luke cage without getting hurt the same thing is with mister x who is also very very trained fighter who was stated to train under the training of top masters and later he killed them he was able to take out people who would beat the hell out of daredevil like taskmaster and wolverine he showed amazing skills , also it was stated that he knows shiars fighting technique which already puts him above ordenery human martial artists

No, he's saying show proof that X can shatter rocks with his bare hands, and harm someone of Luke Cage's strength and durability, by the way, I put up this scan.

Luke Cage saying his skin is steel hard - http://img15.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=76315_HeroesForHire17p20_122_735lo.jpg

Also, if Cage cut loose, he would knock X's block off.

And for the last time, he only beats martial artists and other skilled people in fights because he can read their moves, he's good, but not good enough to beat half the people he's beaten without his powers.

Originally posted by KingD19

And Luke Cage gets shot without feeling it, what can X do? And X hasn't shown any strength feats, stop using things that aren't there.

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wolverine also gets shot and hit by class 100 characters and yada yada and yet mister 4 took him out with 4 strikes... why? pressure points that the whole deal of martial arts if you got the physique of a human being then you have the same pressure points that can be used against you so while he can survive hits from 100 characters a presice hit to some nerve point with enough force will put you down thats how mantis was able to hit thor and other super human beings, we dont know yet how strong are mister x hits because for all his career he only fought wolverine and defeated him, fought taskmaster and recently showen in the thunderbolts so i dont have much scans or proof but from what we saw until now he is easily one of the top fighters in marvel universe and if daredevil can hit luke without getting hurt he will be able to do it as well with the fact he knows shiar fighting style as well

Originally posted by thanos-prime
i wasn't talking about durability i was talking about strenght and X also doesn't have the durability feats to suggest he could take more than 3 hits lol beats the hell out of DD you just proved you don't know what your talking about

luke cage wont be able to land a single hit on mister x because mister x is a telepath and knows exactly what his oponnent is going to do and if taskmaster wolverine and black widow couldnt hit him i can assure you that luke wont be touching him anytime soon , and yes taskmaster and wolverine can take daredevil as wolverine already did in 4 pannels

Originally posted by mummy_guy
wolverine also gets shot and hit by class 100 characters and yada yada and yet mister 4 took him out with 4 strikes... why? pressure points that the whole deal of martial arts if you got the physique of a human being then you have the same pressure points that can be used against you so while he can survive hits from 100 characters a presice hit to some nerve point with enough force will put you down thats how mantis was able to hit thor and other super human beings, we dont know yet how strong are mister x hits because for all his career he only fought wolverine and defeated him, fought taskmaster and recently showen in the thunderbolts so i dont have much scans or proof but from what we saw until now he is easily one of the top fighters in marvel universe and if daredevil can hit luke without getting hurt he will be able to do it as well with the fact he knows shiar fighting style as well

Yeah, and in other occasions people have done nothing but pressure points on Logan and it didn't even slow him down. I already explained this, it's called a low showing.

You didn't talk about the fact that Luke said his skin was steel hard, proving it to be true.

And you don't seem to realize that X only beat Taskmaster because he read his mind.

And Logan has taken hits from Class 100's because of his adamantium, if he was regular, his skull would break open.

Also, Luke can fight for a lot longer than X, X will eventually get tired, and Luke won't, so then he'll win the fight, it's called patience.

Originally posted by mummy_guy
luke cage wont be able to land a single hit on mister x because mister x is a telepath and knows exactly what his oponnent is going to do and if taskmaster wolverine and black widow couldnt hit him i can assure you that luke wont be touching him anytime soon , and yes taskmaster and wolverine can take daredevil as wolverine already did in 4 pannels

Originally posted by thanos-prime
luke has hardened skin that has been proven logan does not just unbreakable bones and without strenght feats there is no reason to believe he has the strenght to use pressure points on him

alright now its just dumb... does daredevil or captain america have strength feats? they are humanly strong with daredevil being athletic strong which is ordenery for a martial artist and captain america being peak human , also punisher used pressure pointsd on spider-man who is class 20 in strength and also got super human durability so this is your proof that mister x can hurt someone like luke cage with pressure points

Originally posted by mummy_guy
alright now its just dumb... does daredevil or captain america have strength feats? they are humanly strong with daredevil being athletic strong which is ordenery for a martial artist and captain america being peak human , also punisher used pressure pointsd on spider-man who is class 20 in strength and also got super human durability so this is your proof that mister x can hurt someone like luke cage with pressure points

Originally posted by thanos-prime
scans or it didn't happen and you keep bring up his fights with people that have human durability like they matter and he will tire long before cage will

prove that luke cage doesnt get tired? i want a proof that his fighting pace doesnt change because i can prove that mister x is a very trained martial artist which means he is used to fight for very long time there is no way in hell someone as trained as mister x is going to get tired before some D class brick

I like how you're ignoring me because I proved you wrong, I'll do so again.

Cap and Daredevil have legitimate strength feats, while X doesn't.

Spider-Man is durable, but only to blunt force trauma, if he gets shot or stabbed, that it for him.

Luke Cage is durable, and his skin is steel-titanium hard, meaning bullets and knives made of anything less than adamantium mean nothing to him. Pressure points also mean nothing to him.

And yeah, Luke has more stamina, why, because it's part of his power set!!!! Any regular martial artist or fighter can only go full out for a few minutes. Luke gets in slug fests with guys like Hulk and goes all out for as long as the fight takes.