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You're totally right. Wolverine fans should have no problem with Wolverine putting DD in a full nelson because it's clearly a more legitimate victory than this: Wolverine laying on the ground, clutching his throat, unable to fight.
ppl should be able to differentiate between major PIS and consistent showing........
but i guess since some ppl cant we can also assume they believe squirrel girl is also a legitimate high tier cosmic smasher.......
and DD can KO and beat sym spidey as well.......
after all it happen on panel......
hell lets forget the writer ennis admitted he doesnt like superheroes and knows his whole story was BS......... but whatever lets ignore all that...
after all he got it all in print so it can all be used as a consistent accurance of the characters right?
hell now we know spidey sense can go off when their is no danger so long as the person setting the trap makes him believe its dangerous......
or that logan cant tell the difference with acid by using his hyper senses....
i guess we can believe that DD is completely out of his league against punisher and his standard wpns...... 🙄
Originally posted by Prep-Man
Troll? Aren't you the one who ignores Karate Kid's feats, because it's PIS? Even when he does it ALL the time? Sounds trollish to me.
no, i dont ignore his feats. i put it all into context with the story how and why he was able to accomplish said feat and debate whether it is repeatable in a forum battle against another similar skilled opponent...
reread my post about kk and the examples i laid out about his abilities.......
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
no, i dont ignore his feats. i put it all into context with the story how and why he was able to accomplish said feat and debate whether it is repeatable in a forum battle against another similar skilled opponent...reread my post about kk and the examples i laid out about his abilities.......
how is that? You can't even tell which KK is which.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Oh yeah Wolverine also got his dead kicked in by a mercenary called the Athiest who used some wooden stick called a shieleagh...or something. So that just not Mr X thats two to the list.
It was a cool story, but that was clearly a low showing for Wolverine. Two crap showings for his durability does not overrule the countless times he's been hit by worse while not only remaining conscious, but also continuing to fight.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
how is that? You can't even tell which KK is which.
i do lose track of them but i am aware of their feats and circumstance...
knocking colossal boy who was running his mouth and KK had his back turn to him about to cheap shot him and apparent that it was a focus type attack....... the way he was preping his hand getting rdy to hit him.
or the fact that when their legion ship was damage KK was looking for micro fissures with his head placed on the hall concentrating looking for fractures doesnt translate to a forum ability on the spot knowledge of a character being aware of his opponent weakness who is also fighting and highly skilled....
or that KK is so far above all human MA fighters b/c he managed to judo/akido toss an kryptonian lvl being who was aggravated and telegraphed his attack while KK was mocking him only to have ultra boy regain the upper hand and kk failing to injure him......... or that b/c he hit supergirl who was just staring at him doesnt mean he has superspeed reaction to keep up with her and is above any human fighter....
again everything needs to be taken into context........
how about ppl using batman and KK as a bench mark but also bringing KK down a few pegs in ability if their battle is any indication of abilities and skill..........
context ppl context........
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
i do lose track of them but i am aware of their feats and circumstance...knocking colossal boy who was running his mouth and KK had his back turn to him about to cheap shot him and apparent that it was a focus type attack....... the way he was preping his hand getting rdy to hit him.
or the fact that when their legion ship was damage KK was looking for micro fissures with his head placed on the hall concentrating looking for fractures doesnt translate to a forum ability on the spot knowledge of a character being aware of his opponent weakness who is also fighting and highly skilled....
or that KK is so far above all human MA fighters b/c he managed to judo/akido toss an kryptonian lvl being who was aggravated and telegraphed his attack while KK was mocking him only to have ultra boy regain the upper hand and kk failing to injure him......... or that b/c he hit supergirl who was just staring at him doesnt mean he has superspeed reaction to keep up with her and is above any human fighter....
again everything needs to be taken into context........
how about ppl using batman and KK as a bench mark but also bringing KK down a few pegs in ability if their battle is any indication of abilities and skill..........
context ppl context........
But he does have super speed. He's trained with Mon-el and Superboy. Not only that, but Val is an evolved human. Unlike Batman or Shang or whoever is a human now.
Originally posted by Prep-Man
But he does have super speed. He's trained with Mon-el and Superboy. Not only that, but Val is an evolved human. Unlike Batman or Shang or whoever is a human now.
that was my 1st defense for KK yrs ago about being evolved human to explain his abilities but it was shot down repeatedly...... to many ppl want to believe he is just peak lvl human.........to which i have always found absurd................
i've heard he has superspeed never seen a scan showing it.
but if he does why isnt he shown using it more? especially when fighting bats.....
training with mon el was a sparring session....... if iirc if so i dont use it as support via association of his ability. nothing shows that he is actually able to defeat him or hold his own.
batman/cap have sparred and trained uber lvl beings as well like i said context helps a lot in forum battles
Originally posted by Wild Shadow
that was my 1st defense for KK yrs ago about being evolved human to explain his abilities but it was shot down repeatedly...... to many ppl want to believe he is just peak lvl human.........to which i have always found absurd................i've heard he has superspeed never seen a scan showing it.
but if he does why isnt he shown using it more? especially when fighting bats.....
training with mon el was a sparring session....... if iirc if so i dont use it as support via association of his ability. nothing shows that he is actually able to defeat him or hold his own.
batman/cap have sparred and trained uber lvl beings as well like i said context helps a lot in forum battles
Uh, what? Shot down or not, he is an evolved human.
Check out 3boot val spar with ultra boy. he dodges his attacks using super speed. he's also dodged projectiles like lightning pre and post crisis. showing he at LEAST has super reflexes.
At Zero Hour, Val WANTS Mon-el to spar at super speeds and does a good job at taking him DOWN.
Last, Whit Crane trains val to take down super humans of all types of powers.
