Originally posted by KingD19
That was my whole point, if Luke Cage a Class 25-30 can take down Rhino, a Class 90 on pure skill, then you know that Thing has him beat. Although, Cage is a street fighter, and he learned a few moves from Iron Fist.
^Seriously???
Durability wise, Thing has taken hits from Hulk, Champion, Juggs, etc... and kept coming, Rhino got downed by Cage, hell, he couldn't handle Huggernaut(the one with downgraded powers), and he was amped at the time.
Strength isn't arguable, Thing clearly takes this, while he didn't do much to WWH, he did more than Rhino would have been capable of accomplishing if he'd done the exact same thing.
And even if he didn't have CIS on, Rhino is a dumb criminal, russian muscle for hire, Ben ain't the brightest, but he's street smart. In a slug fest, Rhino goes down.
Originally posted by KingD19
^Seriously???Durability wise, Thing has taken hits from Hulk, Champion, Juggs, etc... and kept coming, Rhino got downed by Cage, hell, he couldn't handle Huggernaut(the one with downgraded powers), and he was amped at the time.
Strength isn't arguable, Thing clearly takes this, while he didn't do much to WWH, he did more than Rhino would have been capable of accomplishing if he'd done the exact same thing.
And even if he didn't have CIS on, Rhino is a dumb criminal, russian muscle for hire, Ben ain't the brightest, but he's street smart. In a slug fest, Rhino goes down.
Yes really. Rhino did better against Joe Fixit than an amped Thing did.
Strength is indeed questionable
CIS removed takes away the dumb criminal element. His CIS is that he always loses because he's dumb.
Originally posted by KingD19
1 good showing for Rhino doesn't cancel out dozens of showings for Thing. And I believe there were some stipulations with that Spiky Thing fight.
You don't know much about Rhino except what gets said on boards huh? In his early Hulk appearances he would consistently give Savage Hulk a run for his money.
They're both your typical throw-away bricks, flip a coin. Rhion has bad showings, so does Thing. Let's not focus one one characters bad and the others good. Thing just got physically one-shotted by Skaar. I think Juggernaut and Hulk have both demonstrated Skaar is nothing special physically.
Explain to me how strength is questionable.
They're both in that "up to 100 tons" bracket. Neither are true class 100's so don't bring up that Class 100 Ben nonsense.
So just because you take of CIS, he stops being who he is? He suddenly gets smart?
No, it takes away the jobber aura.
In Hulks early days he wasn't nearly as strong starting out as he is now.
And that makes no sense, think about it, he went up against WWH, yet got one shotted by Skaar?? Also, Juggernaut and Hulk are the 2 strongest physical specimens on Earth, them making Skaar their b*tch is not surprising.
Also, Rhino has never went up against the likes of WWH, Champion, and just about every other super powerful guy Ben has taken on, if he did, even without the jobber aura and CIS, Rhino would get owned.
Oh, and Rhino got pwned by Imposternaught, not because of his stupidity, but because he was stronger and a better fighter than him.