Ow, my head. I'm gonna go get a screenshot and draw a diagram. @_@
How is he imperceptible? Pheromones would still be there, and that plus Bullseye's insane accuracy means he can get hit. I don't see how Ganon can put him down. Physically, or magically.Nah, by that logic you can smell thingsi n the tilight realm which you can't do. It's like a two way mirror.
Nick is on this side, he only sees his reflection, Ganon is on the other, he can see Nick, but Nick can't see him.
Originally posted by ScreamPaste
Nick Fury's in the field, which overlaps the plane, Ganon is in the plane itself. It's wierd how it works. Ganon can see Nick, he'd be a spirit, totally unaware of Ganon's presence.Not unless he replicates that specific power.. But yeah, magic immunity doesn't make you immune to overlapped dimensions.
He can call them all on at will and do more than one at once.
Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
How is he imperceptible? Pheromones would still be there, and that plus Bullseye's insane accuracy means he can get hit. I don't see how Ganon can put him down. Physically, or magically.
This is how Nick would appear in the Twilight Field. He wouldn't be able to percieve Ganon with any sense. Things in the Twilight realm can effect things in the field, but I'm not sure it works both ways. For fairness sake we should assuem Nick could fight back, but I'm not sure what he could do with no way to find his enemy.
Well he can fly much faster then he can run, and has much better reflexs. But he has no magic resitence feats, we assume he has the resistence as the member whos abilities he absorbed. Which infact he absorbed the power of her artifact which grants magic immunity, but since he doesnt actually carry it the stones with him we can't prove if it still applies.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He also has the powers of Justice, a powerful Telekinetic.You're not gonna take over Fury's mind, his thoughts are influenced by the Nanites. Since the Nanites are a collective consciousness, if Nick's thoughts changed they'd be aware of this and change them back.
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
He also has the powers of Justice, a powerful Telekinetic.You're not gonna take over Fury's mind, his thoughts are influenced by the Nanites. Since the Nanites are a collective consciousness, if Nick's thoughts changed they'd be aware of this and change them back.
I assume the nanites have shown this ability? when?
In this example ,it could be Kains mind that are influenced by nanites within this guys body...would they even realise his mind is not his own?
Originally posted by jalek moye
Teleketics tend to be easily attacked by Telepaths.
It makes sense, like a large radar his mind is sending out greater signals than someone without such mental capability. Thus it would probably make it easier to lock on and intercept an entity of greater mental ability than it would one without so much a mental advantage.
They don't have to realize that his mind is not his own. They influence his thought patterns, which is why nobody in the Fold even thinks against it. In order to control Fury's mind, Kain would have to control all of the Nanites. And almost everyone on the planet is infected with them.
If Fury does something that isn't good for the collective, like decide not to demolish Kain, they will alter that.
That still leaves Kain in control, just according to your information even if its invalid (theres no evidence yet) the nanites will not know or even attempt to stop the mind control, they will simply not allow him to do things such as make Fury impale himself or tap dance etc
Then theres the nasty problem of entites whos minds Kain infects with his MC dissolve when he leaves them.
You're not quite getting it. Kain is the enemy here. He is bad for the collective. Naturally, Fury works to further the collective, he does not think against it. If he does, the Nanites alter it to work for the good of the collective.
If Fury leaves Kain alone, its bad. The Nanites won't let it happen.
I don't think the nanites ever encountered some controlleing on of their people minds. So i have no idea if they would be able to fully overcome it or not, although I know they would pull everything to make it so they are in full control. the result I have no idea about.
I would assume they would be able to, but I don't know the extent of Kain's mental ability
Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're not quite getting it. Kain is the enemy here. He is bad for the collective. Naturally, Fury works to further the collective, he does not think against it. If he does, the Nanites alter it to work for the good of the collective.If Fury leaves Kain alone, its bad. The Nanites won't let it happen.
but he wont be thinking anything and it sounds like your making this up based on assumption not feats. Especially since Jalek is not so sure and appears to me far more credible on the matter.
Kain mind controls the guy, makes him destroy himself or does something stupid to lessen his chances OR, Kain mind controls, leaves because he cant make Fury do anything and so Fury dissolves.
No, that's the way it works. Even people who pursue solely their own interests are unable to think against the Fold. Two are Green Goblin and The Tinkerer. Tinkerer even says he was never more sure he was doing the right thing than with the Fold, but that he is unsure if the Fold altered his brain to be incapable of thinking against it or some other thing.
When Green Goblin is freed, he is still speaking like he enjoyed his time with the Fold.
Like I said, leaving Kain alone is bad for the Fold, so Nick won't be able to let Kain be.