Originally posted by inimalist
you don't think Tigers and predators might need those same pattern recognition skills?thinking a noise is a tasty small mammal and being right is a benefit over thinking it isn't and being wrong.
just food for thought, and a more interesting topic for discussion 🙂
Ya, there was kind of an arms race going on. It seems we won.
LOL, not quite my point...
EDIT: not quite an arms race either. The tendency of the tiger to "false pattern recognition" was not driven by the human tendency, or vice versa. This tendency is one of the most fundamental properties of the brain, which stores information as a series of patterns and builds memory/stimuli-response based on pattern prediction.
Originally posted by inimalist
LOL, not quite my point...EDIT: not quite an arms race either. The tendency of the tiger to "false pattern recognition" was not driven by the human tendency, or vice versa. This tendency is one of the most fundamental properties of the brain, which stores information as a series of patterns and builds memory/stimuli-response based on pattern prediction.
If somehow, the relationship between pray and predictor never came into being, would the brain have developed this ability? No one really knows, but I think the relationship between pray and predictor is the main driver behind pattern recognition.
Am I still not getting what you are saying?
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
If somehow, the relationship between pray and predictor never came into being, would the brain have developed this ability?
yes
this is literally the ability that connects your desire and planning to move with the physical and visual sensation of your movements.
arguably the most basic function of the brain
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
No one really knows, but I think the relationship between pray and predictor is the main driver behind pattern recognition.
"pattern recognition", no
"mistaking random noise for potential a food-source/predator", more relevant
the more anthropic we define it, however, the more these pattern recognition abilities are going to be driven by our social interactions than by predator/prey relations.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Am I still not getting what you are saying?
I'm really not saying anything that relevant. Nothing personal, I just like to nit pick stuff when I'm procrastinating or am bored or whatever. Pattern recognition is probably the most important thing all animals do. Ours is so good that we see patterns in everything, even when there isn't one. You can call that having the best pattern recognition, but meh, being wrong some huge percent of the time is hardly "the best" imho.
Originally posted by inimalist
yesthis is literally the ability that connects your desire and planning to move with the physical and visual sensation of your movements.
arguably the most basic function of the brain
"pattern recognition", no
"mistaking random noise for potential a food-source/predator", more relevant
the more anthropic we define it, however, the more these pattern recognition abilities are going to be driven by our social interactions than by predator/prey relations.
I'm really not saying anything that relevant. Nothing personal, I just like to nit pick stuff when I'm procrastinating or am bored or whatever. Pattern recognition is probably the most important thing all animals do. Ours is so good that we see patterns in everything, even when there isn't one. You can call that having the best pattern recognition, but meh, being wrong some huge percent of the time is hardly "the best" imho.
Get a hobby. 😉
I can't disagree with you. I simply think that this ability can lead to illusions. Like the video on this thread. I think that people have a tenancy to look at random events and incorrectly connect the dots.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Get a hobby. 😉I can't disagree with you. I simply think that this ability can lead to illusions. Like the video on this thread. I think that people have a tenancy to look at random events and incorrectly connect the dots.
some recent studies have even taken that idea a little bit further
if you put someone in a mental state where they feel they have little control over the situation, or make them remember a situation where they had little control (activate similar processing pathways associated with "lack-of-control"😉, they will be far more likely to find a pattern in the dots than someone who feels they are in control of a situation.
An interpretation of this is that, when people are faced with stressful situations, especially ones where they are the proverbial "victims of fate" (ie, a series of seemingly random negative events transpire), they will be more likely to associate some form of pattern with them. Personally, I feel this underlies a lot of conspiratorial thinking (many people suggest religion, though I think it would only be really relevant when talking about conversion).
The tendency leads us to many illusions. Man, even a lot of optical illusions might be said to work in similar ways, though, whether the filling in of visual patterns is the same as the cognitive filling in of event patterns (I would argue they are) is not so concrete.
Originally posted by inimalist
some recent studies have even taken that idea a little bit furtherif you put someone in a mental state where they feel they have little control over the situation, or make them remember a situation where they had little control (activate similar processing pathways associated with "lack-of-control"😉, they will be far more likely to find a pattern in the dots than someone who feels they are in control of a situation.
An interpretation of this is that, when people are faced with stressful situations, especially ones where they are the proverbial "victims of fate" (ie, a series of seemingly random negative events transpire), they will be more likely to associate some form of pattern with them. Personally, I feel this underlies a lot of conspiratorial thinking (many people suggest religion, though I think it would only be really relevant when talking about conversion).
The tendency leads us to many illusions. Man, even a lot of optical illusions might be said to work in similar ways, though, whether the filling in of visual patterns is the same as the cognitive filling in of event patterns (I would argue they are) is not so concrete.
Wow, that is interesting. Because when I was a fundamentalist Christian, I had no control over what I believed. You can’t have control, or you will be labeled a heretic. That is unless you are the leader.