Kratos takes on Organization XIII

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos defeated Lahkesis and Atropos at the same time and that proves he can deal with Xaldin's flying and spear dragon.

You do realize that Atropos was stuck INSIDE the mirror, and that she was half weakened, right?

They're humans like you and me who could rip zombies in half.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos broken through more durable things.

and can make a roomclearing inferno.

Xaldin has spears that he controls with TK? Kratos pulls out his spear and shotguns them out of the air.

Like what?

Isn't that a gameplay mechanic? You can only pull this off if you get 30+ or more while in ROTT mode.

If he does that, wouldn't he get impaled as well?

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Kratos defeated Lahkesis and Atropos at the same time and that proves he can deal with Xaldin's flying and spear dragon. Xaldin has a wind barrier? Kratos broken through more durable things. Xaldin is fast? Kratos has rapid fire arrows, can swing his blades like a helicopter, and can make a roomclearing inferno. Xaldin has spears that he controls with TK? Kratos pulls out his spear and shotguns them out of the air.

Sora did fine with his keyblade and didn't need any long range.

I don't see how Kratos lasts more than 2 seconds in this fight tbh.

When you start the fight in KH he immediatly shoots the 6 spears at you at amazing speed. I've never seen Kratos fight anyone who attacks in such a manner. When you start adding the large lightning blasts and his fast ranged and hard attacks i quickly fail to see how Kratos can pull off a win.

You claim Kratos can spin his blades fast, and can shoot arrows quickly. But none of that will help him in this battle. As the barrier has withstood stronger attacks than Kratos can do at a range, which is the only way he can fight Xaldin. Kratos has not shown the battle speed Sora has, Nor the stop'all shield he can use to elude attacks. So i don't see how Kratos is going to get near.

Please consider my points as you watch the fight

YouTube video

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
You're really not making good points Sin. You know what Arrows fly though? Air. You know what helicopters fly in? Air. And what does Fire need to burn? Oxygen, most commonly found in air.

I doubt the Inferno would be affected due to its power and the fact that it's part of the Rage of the Titans.

And lets not forget that Sora (plus the Beast) were able to kill this guy. Kratos isn't gonna sit around while Xaldin throws spears at him or use that vortex beam. Xaldin controls the wind and that means can't do nothing? Then how did he die to kid Cloud and some angry monster ?

Originally posted by iChaos
You do realize that Atropos was stuck INSIDE the mirror, and that she was half weakened, right?
They're humans like you and me who could rip zombies in half.

You tell me one human who survived getting stabbed in head and chest. The two sisters obviously above that.

Like what?

Metal doors and Zeus's magical barrier.

Isn't that a gameplay mechanic? You can only pull this off if you get 30+ or more while in ROTT mode.

It's just as much as a game mechanic as Sora getting any Drive forms besides Valor.

If he does that, wouldn't he get impaled as well?

Maybe, maybe not.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
I doubt the Inferno would be affected due to its power and the fact that it's part of the Rage of the Titans.

And lets not forget that Sora (plus the Beast) were able to kill this guy. Kratos isn't gonna sit around while Xaldin throws spears at him or use that vortex beam. Xaldin controls the wind and that means can't do nothing? Then how did he die to kid Cloud and some angry monster ?

Because Sora is incredibly fast, and can teleport.

This thread is still receiving replies >__>? Kratos cannot clear it. Xaldin, Xigbar & Roxas can best him. If they don't, Xemnas will.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Because Sora is incredibly fast, and can teleport.

Sora can fight fast but in his normal form he moves no faster than Kratos who can swing his chains fast as well. Let's not forget that Beast was also in the fight and he did survive.

The only ones beating Kratos are Xigbar (sniper mode), Roxas, Luxord, Xemnas, and Saix if he doesn't leave claymores around.

I firmly believe that Kratos can tear Saix's arms off and shove his claymores down his throat.

Saix is pure power for the most part, and Kratos surpasses him in that.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I firmly believe that Kratos can tear Saix's arms off and shove his claymores down his throat.

Saix is pure power for the most part, and Kratos surpasses him in that.

Prove it?

Sora's striking power can cut skyscrapers in to multiple pieces. Thats a feat Kratos himself doesn't match.

Sora is much weaker than Saix displayed by Saix's normal melee attacks bat off Sora's. And when enraged Sora's attack don't even register against Saix.

So come on, I'm ready to be impressed.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Prove it?

Sora's striking power can cut skyscrapers in to multiple pieces. Thats a feat Kratos himself doesn't match.

Sora is much weaker than Saix displayed by Saix's normal melee attacks bat off Sora's. And when enraged Sora's attack don't even register against Saix.

So come on, I'm ready to be impressed.

Sora has never cut a friggin skyscraper into any amount of pieces, he can cut a SMALL section of skycraper in half.

Kratos with the Blade of Olympus can blast a hole directly through the Collossus of Rhodes, which by feats is much more durable than a mere section of building, along with larger.

Kratos is undeniably much stronger than Saix.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Okay seriously.

Sora has never cut a friggin skyscraper into any amount of pieces, he can cut a SMALL section of skycraper in half.

Kratos with the Blade of Olympus can blast a hole directly through the Collossus of Rhodes, which by feats is much more durable than a mere section of building, along with larger.

Kratos is undeniably much stronger than Saix.

Wrong.

I suggest you replay KH2. Before he cuts the buildings in half and rides them to Xemnas, he slashes through multiple scrapers and cuts them all multiple times.

Read the opening post please. Also note that's the weapons power not Kratos's 😬

and wrong

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Wrong.

I suggest you replay KH2. Before he cuts the buildings in half and rides them to Xemnas, he slashes through multiple scrapers and cuts them all multiple times.

Read the opening post please. Also note that's the weapons power not Kratos's 😬

and wrong

So you take away his strongest weapon? Noice.

Wrong my ass.

Call me when a single character in KH overpowers a creature the size of an island.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Give me a vid. Nao.

So you take away his strongest weapon? Noice.

Wrong my ass.

Call me when a single character in KH overpowers a creature the size of an island.

I think i linked it in this thread actually.

I take away something whose power is inconsistent and difficult to judge in several of these fights.

Call me when you find a video of Kratos overpowering more than one head at a time. I can't think of a way you can exaggerate that feat more than "Overpowering a creature the size of an island". So unless he dragged the entire body, no he didn't.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I suggest you replay KH2. Before he cuts the buildings in half and rides them to Xemnas, he slashes through multiple scrapers and cuts them all multiple times.
Read the opening post please. Also note that's the weapons power not Kratos's 😬

Let's also remember that all of Sora's feats come from his keyblade, not his own power. Without the weapon, he's just a kid with a few spells. Without using any weapon, Kratos ripped up soldiers, tore off monster heads, pushed up a crushing ceiling, swung huge pillars like a baseball bat, and pushed back Atlas's fingers.

Using his Athena Blades + strength scarred a Colossus, woke up titan horses, pulled Euryale and a pillar to the floor, etc.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Let's also remember that all of Sora's feats come from his keyblade, not his own power. Without the weapon, he's just a kid with a few spells. Without using any weapon, Kratos ripped up soldiers, tore off monster heads, pushed up a crushing ceiling, swung huge pillars like a baseball bat, and pushed back Atlas's fingers.

Using his Athena Blades + strength scarred a Colossus, woke up titan horses, pulled Euryale and a pillar to the floor, etc.

Pretty sure he only needed the Keyblade to fight the Heartless because it frees people's hearts. Even without it other people have defeated heartless.

Originally posted by Sin_Volvagia
Let's also remember that all of Sora's feats come from his keyblade, not his own power. Without the weapon, he's just a kid with a few spells. Without using any weapon, Kratos ripped up soldiers, tore off monster heads, pushed up a crushing ceiling, swung huge pillars like a baseball bat, and pushed back Atlas's fingers.

Using his Athena Blades + strength scarred a Colossus, woke up titan horses, pulled Euryale and a pillar to the floor, etc.

I really don't see how that is in anyway a reletive point. Since he destroyed the scrapers with the same weapon he attacks Saix with 😬

You keep going on about this like anyone give one, but i doubt they do. Move on and make a point please

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I think i linked it in this thread actually.

I take away something whose power is inconsistent and difficult to judge in several of these fights.

Call me when you find a video of Kratos overpowering more than one head at a time. I can't think of a way you can exaggerate that feat more than "Overpowering a creature the size of an island". So unless he dragged the entire body, no he didn't.

Inconsistent? The only inconsistencies are the differences in the level of control Zeus and Kratos have in it.

It's one large head was the size of a building. 😬 And in Chains of Olympus he was able to overpower the full body of a Basilisk, which was much larger than that one head of the Hydra. He frequently overpowers creatures many times the size of himself, such as Clotho, who is the size of a large building.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
Pretty sure he only needed the Keyblade to fight the Heartless because it frees people's hearts. Even without it other people have defeated heartless.

The FF characters are metahuman, Beast is like an ogre, and the rest can hold their own better than some 15 year old midget who can barely kill a Shadow by himself.

Midget is an offensive term sir. You had better be careful around the next St. Patrick's Day.

There is no reason to believe the Keyblade gives any extra powers to said 15 year old little person.

Originally posted by MooCowofJustice
There is no reason to believe the Keyblade gives any extra powers to said 15 year old little person.