superman prime vs trion juggernaut

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Prime can BFR him

maybe I don't know much about Trion some say he can't be BFRed cause of his back dimension punching, I'm not even sure who would win but shokos logic is definately stupid and he always says supe will win even if you put him against LT, Thanos w/HotU and TAAO

You can't BFR a guy who can punch through dimensions, that's basically like saying you can BFR a teleporter.

Shoko's logic is flawed. Just ignore it.

As for Juggernaut, he would need to swing with force to be able to go through dimensions. If he doesn't have ground on gain force to punch, his swings before powerless, or de-powered.

Either way, Prime can BFR him to a black hole, or other places like it.

Nothing ever said he had to be grounded to punch through dimensions, he could just swing and open one. And no one actually know what happens in a black hole, even if you tried to dump Trion in one, it more than likely wouldn't work.

It would work. The gravity would make him stay in place.

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Prime can BFR him

Do you think that traveling through dimensions is different from traveling over a small distance?

I am unsure if Juggs can do the following. Say if they start fighting in the a stadium and some how Trion gets ringed out. would he be able to punch nothingness and travel back to the ring? I'm not sure.

Also if SMP holds of to trion too long, Trion could grab hold of SMP and possible crush the life out of him.

Nothing has ever been able to make him stay in place, and once he's inside the black hole, who says the gravity stays constant?

Originally posted by KingD19
Nothing has ever been able to make him stay in place, and once he's inside the black hole, who says the gravity stays constant?

For all we know, the black hole that SMP drops Trion in, could be a wormhole and dump him a couple billion miles away, only for him to punch his way back. The reason I said we don't know if the gravity stays constant, was because I meant we don't know what'll happen inside it.

Originally posted by KingD19
For all we know, the black hole that SMP drops Trion in, could be a wormhole and dump him a couple billion miles away, only for him to punch his way back. The reason I said we don't know if the gravity stays constant, was because I meant we don't know what'll happen inside it.

You can also say, that maybe Prime will miss throwing Juggernaut in the blackhole 🙄

Originally posted by KingD19
For all we know, the black hole that SMP drops Trion in, could be a wormhole and dump him a couple billion miles away, only for him to punch his way back. The reason I said we don't know if the gravity stays constant, was because I meant we don't know what'll happen inside it.

a black hole isn't really a hole it's condensed matter

I know it's not a hole, but some theories state that a black hole can act as a wormhole, the string theory I believe it was called. Stretch someone out to near infinity, then dump them somewhere else in the universe.

Originally posted by KingD19
I know it's not a hole, but some theories state that a black hole can act as a wormhole, the string theory I believe it was called. Stretch someone out to near infinity, then dump them somewhere else in the universe.

Prime launches Juggy to the other side of the universe

Originally posted by SamZED
lol Id pick that over dying of old age any day.

Originally posted by KingD19
Notice I said it was a possibility, as I hadn't seen him do anything to prove it. However, 616 has walked on air, and swam effortlessly, despite the fact that he weighs about 900lbs and should quickly sink. Although in Hulk 602 when he was falling towards Skaar, he couldn't stop himself.(Although the writer made up a BFR for Juggs to lose)

Trion can perform the feats that 616 has done, since he is more powerful, and in more control of his abilities. And he could punch a hole back to Earth, since he has punched through dimensions before.

And you can't BFR a guy who can punch his way anywhere he wants.

Cloak goes into the Darkforce dimension, and when he comes out, he's somewhere else in our dimension. What says Trion can't do the same thing?

Originally posted by KingD19
Cloak goes into the Darkforce dimension, and when he comes out, he's somewhere else in our dimension. What says Trion can't do the same thing?

Now don't get me wrong, because, while possessed, Juggernaut could travel to another dimension it allows that possibility, but he never did it. Until he does it you can't really say for sure he can.

Isn't Juggs able to use his momentum even without footing as he did against Jean Grey, being magic and all? And can't he will himself more power?

With that said, shouldn't he be able to fly?

He can become stronger if he focuses himself, as seen when the Wager of the Octessence was activated and he was focused on doing Cyttorak's bidding. I don't know about flying though. And the walking on nothing thing. He did do that in his first appearance but he hasn't done it since. Not that I'm aware of. In fact, I remember reading him tell someone he waited on an chunk of space rock for a year because he couldn't fly. Walking on nothing again would put an interesting twist on him.