A True Christian test.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
No, by "your religion is irrelevant" I meant that your religion is not a factor. It doesn't have any sway on the argument. You said you would live without material posessions if you could. Christian or Bhudist or Scientologist, you said this. After saying this, I asked you if you truly would, and you constantly said that you were "bhudist, not christian" which is not a factor in what you yourself have said you would do.

The answer is: I don’t always get what I want. I have a home and a family, so giving up money is not a reality. The reason I was pointing out that I was not a Christian was because, in my religion, there is no requirement for me to give up worldly things (unless I became a monk, and I am not).

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
My remark was in response to "* this i gotta see... do tell!", posted by Peejayd. It was in no way, shape, or form a personal attack. You have in fact praised the teaching that we should live without material posessions according to the christian religion.

My bad. I thought you were replying to me.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
Please, read the argument before you post this time.

You were doing fine until this line. Just because there is a communication brake down between us does not mean I am irresponsible. It leads to me saying “well, make your point clearer next time”. That then leads to conflict. You need to except responsibility for your part of the conversation.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
You were doing fine until this line. Just because there is a communication brake down between us does not mean I am irresponsible. It leads to me saying “well, make your point clearer next time”. That then leads to conflict. You need to except responsibility for your part of the conversation.

Ok fine. I will "except" responsibility for my part of the conversation.

Everyone is responsible except me!

I made my point perfectly clear and clarified myself multiple times. You chose to read key words like "Religion" and "irrelevant" and guess what I was saying in the rest of my posts.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
Ok fine. I will "except" responsibility for my part of the conversation.

Everyone is responsible except me!

I made my point perfectly clear and clarified myself multiple times. You chose to read key words like "Religion" and "irrelevant" and guess what I was saying in the rest of my posts.

I did not actually say anything about your point being clear or not. I was giving you an example of how your approach would lead to conflict.

Do you under stand why it is not required for me to give up anything, while Christians must give up worldly possessions?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I did not actually say anything about your point being clear or not. I was giving you an example of how your approach would lead to conflict.

Do you under stand why it is not required for me to give up anything, while Christians must give up worldly possessions?

And good job on averting complete failure. By not getting heated about my Grammatical National Socialism you succeeded.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
You said you would if you could, but nobody is required to follow their word.

I don't remember ever saying I was going to do anything. I was only talking about wants, and we don't always get what we want.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
And good job on averting complete failure. By not getting heated about my Grammatical National Socialism you succeeded.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Now would you please answer my question?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't remember ever saying I was going to do anything. I was only talking about wants, and we don't always get what we want.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Now would you please answer my question?

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
uh..... i feel like saying No just for the heck of it but yes I will please answer your question.

OK. I will wait.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
OK. I will wait.

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
I was talking about wants. We all know we don't get what we want.

We are off topic.

Anderson:

there were so many duplicate headslaps.

Originally posted by Ordo
This is the sort of typical reactionary approach that plagues an unfortunately large population of Christians.

Any criticism is seen as an attack, as if everyone is entitled to their own opinion regardless of fact. Then comes the demonization, where the questioner is abstracted into something that is against them in every way without exception.

....a sheer lack of mental testicles....

* once again, the ever-"valiant" mr.ordo picks on me, i'm so honored... the forum is dominated by this "if-you're-a-christian-you're-dumb" thingy, then if someone tries to defend Christianity, you say we're sensitive... and for the love of anyone with rational thinking, what mr.shakyamunison is doing is a blatant Christian-bashing, don't try to cover up the obvious, unless you're delusional and stupid... and by saying mr.shakyamunison praise some teachings of Christianity shocks me, see my enthusiasm? that's why i want to know...

* now, my question to you mr.ordo is, if you do not believe in God, does that spare you from being rude like what you're doing to me? 🙄

* quit picking on me, please? 😆

Originally posted by peejayd
* once again, the ever-"valiant" mr.ordo picks on me, i'm so honored... the forum is dominated by this "if-you're-a-christian-you're-dumb" thingy, then if someone tries to defend Christianity, you say we're sensitive... and for the love of anyone with rational thinking, what mr.shakyamunison is doing is a blatant Christian-bashing, don't try to cover up the obvious, unless you're delusional and stupid... and by saying mr.shakyamunison praise some teachings of Christianity shocks me, see my enthusiasm? that's why i want to know...

* now, my question to you mr.ordo is, if you do not believe in God, does that spare you from being rude like what you're doing to me? 🙄

* quit picking on me, please? 😆

This is a debate forum. Here we debate religious ideas.

Let me help you:

Forum Rules
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/misc.php?action=rules

Courtesy
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

When a person attacks your beliefs, that is not considered bashing. Bashing is a personal attack. I understand that you take your religion personally, but that is your problem, not mine or anyone else's. You should consider turning off the computer, and doing something else, when you feel that Christianity is being bashed.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
This is a debate forum. Here we debate religious ideas.

Let me help you:

Forum Rules
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/misc.php?action=rules

Courtesy
Don't attack others. Personal attacks on others will not be tolerated. Challenge others' points of view and opinions, but do so respectfully and thoughtfully ... without insult and personal attack.

When a person attacks your beliefs, that is not considered bashing. Bashing is a personal attack. I understand that you take your religion personally, but that is your problem, not mine or anyone else's. You should consider turning off the computer, and doing something else, when you feel that Christianity is being bashed.

What? Are you some sort of idiot?

Ordo did personally attack him by saying that he had a "lack of mental testicles". Not to mention that by identifying a person as part of a group and then attacking the group you're clearly attacking that person.

Seriously, it's like before you can become a Buddhist you have to smash your head against a wall a few times to get rid of the "not being a completely hypocritical moron" parts of the brain.

* that's the reason i say "Christian-bashing" because time and time again you bash Christianity... the attack is not on me but on Christianity... and a "true Christian test" thread created by a self-proclaimed Buddhist is a spite... now, if you're enjoying creating spite threads demeaning Christians and their belief, go ahead, but don't say we're too sensitive when we are forced to defend our belief... and of course, only small percentage of forumers would agree with me because this so-called "Religion Forum" is dominated by people who reject Christianity... and i say, "The Lord rebuke you!" because time will come you realize all mistakes you've done...

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
What? Are you some sort of idiot?

I mean honestly... you had to ask?

He misread my posts constantly insisting that his translation of my impeccable english was more correct than mine. After this he accused me of personally attacking him when supporting him and then told me to "Except responsibility".

I don't know how you define idiot, but that matches my criteria.

Originally posted by peejayd
* that's the reason i say "Christian-bashing" because time and time again you bash Christianity... the attack is not on me but on Christianity... and a "true Christian test" thread created by a self-proclaimed Buddhist is a spite... now, if you're enjoying creating spite threads demeaning Christians and their belief, go ahead, but don't say we're too sensitive when we are forced to defend our belief... and of course, only small percentage of forumers would agree with me because this so-called "Religion Forum" is dominated by people who reject Christianity... and i say, "The Lord rebuke you!" because time will come you realize all mistakes you've done...

Don't listen to Symmetric Chaos, he just want to insult you.

If the attack is not on you, then why would you care? I mean, are you telling me that Christianity is not big enough to take criticism? Is your religion so weak that anything said by someone not of your religion requires that you suffer?

When someone says something stupid about Buddhism, I'm all over it, but I never suffer over it. It honestly sounds like, to me, that you feel pain when someone attacks Christianity.

Just look at some of the anti-Buddhist threads on this forum. I have a lot of fun with it. The only time I ever got upset at a Christian was for spamming an informational Buddhist thread. You should try to have more fun. Otherwise, what's the point?

Originally posted by ~:Mr.Anderson:~
...I mean honestly... you had to ask?

He misread my posts constantly insisting that his translation of my impeccable english was more correct than mine. After this he accused me of personally attacking him when supporting him and then told me to "Except responsibility".

I don't know how you define idiot, but that matches my criteria.

So, you still refuse to take responsibility for your part of the communication? 🙄

* doh i'm done with this thread anyway... 😉

Originally posted by peejayd
* doh i'm done with this thread anyway... 😉

Just don't suffer over it.