Juggernaut vs Everybody Below Herald in Marvel

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Originally posted by galactusischere
I said WITHOUT plot devices that was clearly a plot device no way in hell are they going to beat Cyttorak who is an elder god level being

What plot device? Xavier took them in his head and helped Cain fight the evil spirit. Cyttorak wasn't involved in the Trion Juggernaut incident. Unless it's been retconned.

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wassup wit all the Marko wanking lately

Vision and Emma ftw

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
wassup wit all the Marko wanking lately

Vision and Emma ftw


so Emma Frost and Vison beat Trion Juggernaut?
Trion Juggs was near FP Tyrant level

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Originally posted by galactusischere
Trion Juggs was near FP Tyrant level

How so?

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Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
How so?

umm Cyttorak?

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Originally posted by galactusischere
umm Cyttorak?

What about him?

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Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
What about him?

what I mean is that Cyttorak's power is close to FP Tyrant

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Originally posted by galactusischere
what I mean is that Cyttorak's power is close to FP Tyrant

Which wouldn't be surprising, he's an elder god. But, unless retconned, the story goes that Juggernaut was possessed by an evil spirit, not Cyttorak.

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Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
Which wouldn't be surprising, he's an elder god. But, unless retconned, the story goes that Juggernaut was possessed by an evil spirit, not Cyttorak.

he had the powers of Cyttorak

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Originally posted by galactusischere
he had the powers of Cyttorak

Which issue did it say that in?

Sin I AM Madame Mort

so this is trion juggs, y didnt the thread starter jus say trion juggs...i thought it was juggs just using his powers the way he 's classically depicted. He would not have all of cytorraks power.

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Rogue CAN steal Jugs power right? (she did it once iirc and she grow in size or somethin, and Cain shrinked & became human)

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
so this is trion juggs, y didnt the thread starter jus say trion juggs...i thought it was juggs just using his powers the way he 's classically depicted. He would not have all of cytorraks power.

Emma ,Vision ftw


I'm still not sure if he means Trion Juggernaut or Juggernaut with all of Cyttorak's power. There is a difference. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by an evil spirit from a dupe gem, not Cyttorak.

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Originally posted by occultdestroyer
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This right here.

Sin I AM Madame Mort
Originally posted by Doctor-Alvis
I'm still not sure if he means Trion Juggernaut or Juggernaut with all of Cyttorak's power. There is a difference. Trion Juggernaut was possessed by an evil spirit from a dupe gem, not Cyttorak.

I'm ASSuming that he means a non-jobbing classically depicted juggernaut. Since Trion would be spite, and Cytorrak would never imbue Marko with ALL his power that wouldn't make sense he's still only an avatar so at the most he'd have 49% of the elder gods powers...still

Vision Emma ftw 🙄

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Originally posted by Sin I AM
I'm ASSuming that he means a non-jobbing classically depicted juggernaut. Since Trion would be spite, and Cytorrak would never imbue Marko with ALL his power that wouldn't make sense he's still only an avatar so at the most he'd have 49% of the elder gods powers...still

Vision Emma ftw 🙄


I think classic and Trion Juggernaut would be the easier options to beat. Trion Juggernaut was powerful, yeah, but his mental weakness was two fold. If you can get the evil spirit out of him he is no longer Trion Juggernaut.