Hercules Vs Wolverine

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Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
i'm not playing the "god card" as you put it. it is a legitimate part of his powerset, being the son of zeus and all. it's like thor being the son of odin.

current herc has the feats to back up spanking sentry, imo.


Saying he a god, as if that makes him win...is kinda pull the card. Title of god is nothing more then a name. Ares for one is not very tough and he a full God. Wolverine with out a doubt would take him the majority Ares not Herc.

I not so sure that is such a great feats. Sentry jobbed. He either godlike or jobbs like crazy. He kinda one of thoses character if you beat him it mean little becuase he jobbs all the time and if you loses to him it like well there godlike sentry. He either god like or jobbing.

I mean Sentry utilazed his powers he should destroy Herc. I like Herc a lot he my favorite heavy hitter, but in a forum match he should get utterly stomp by Sentry. Hell even slugging it out and not ultalizing his ability he went Toe to Toe with WWH at his maddest for a long while, but could not take Herc? Herc could beat up by a far less mad WWH true he did not fight back, but he look terriable after a few short shots, Sentry had Hulk at a stalemate for quite a while in a slugg fest.

also did sentry even get hurt? Herc just kinda grabbed his cape and throw him.

I am still on the fence with this one. Either way niether goes down like a chump and a fight I like to see in the comics, it be epic. Both are going to get bloody and beat on.

jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by Battlehammer

also did sentry even get hurt? Herc just kinda grabbed his cape and throw him.

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That shot to the balls hurt him

Kris Blaze Restricted
Originally posted by redhotrash
The general trend on this board with Wolverine is as follows.
He beats all bricks because hes designed to do so.
He beats all martial artists because hes trained longer and can heal.
He beats all energy manipulators because he can use stealth and agility.
He beats all telepaths because his skull makes him resistant.
He beats speedsters because he only has to hit them once.
He can beat anyone with below cosmic durability because he has claws.
Essentially, Wolverine only loses to Hulk (sometimes), Silver Surfer, and Superman. And those losses of course are by knockout or bfr, none of them can kill him.

lol, so true.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by jalek moye
That shot to the balls hurt him

oh yea lol hahahahaha, that was funny. God him an Gargan are the two of the biggest jobbers. At least Sentry has very good showings as well, but if they keep this up there going to make high tier version of gargan

-Pr- Hey Yo!
Originally posted by Battlehammer
Saying he a god, as if that makes him win...is kinda pull the card. Title of god is nothing more then a name. Ares for one is not very tough and he a full God. Wolverine with out a doubt would take him the majority Ares not Herc.

that's not what i said at all. we all know how powerful zeus is. the fact that hercules is his son does insinuate that he is pretty powerful. plus, his history is pretty impressive too.

I not so sure that is such a great feats. Sentry jobbed. He either godlike or jobbs like crazy. He kinda one of thoses character if you beat him it mean little becuase he jobbs all the time and if you loses to him it like well there godlike sentry. He either god like or jobbing.

i disagree. there can be a middle ground, and i think that's where sentry was when herc clobbered him.

his atlas feat alone shows massive strength. there are plenty of feats (as you know) from his incredible series alone that make him seem a lot more impressive than someone who would get stomped on.

I mean Sentry utilazed his powers he should destroy Herc. I like Herc a lot he my favorite heavy hitter, but in a forum match he should get utterly stomp by Sentry. Hell even slugging it out and not ultalizing his ability he went Toe to Toe with WWH at his maddest for a long while, but could not take Herc? Herc could beat up by a far less mad WWH true he did not fight back, but he look terriable after a few short shots, Sentry had Hulk at a stalemate for quite a while in a slugg fest.

see, that's ABC logic. 😛

also did sentry even get hurt? Herc just kinda grabbed his cape and throw him.

he hit sentry more than sentry hit him. and he used venom to bludgeon him too, which was awesome.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by redhotrash
The general trend on this board with Wolverine is as follows.
He beats all bricks because hes designed to do so.

He was originally conceived as a Hulk villain, he KO Wendigo in his first appearances and has consistently fought and done extremely well vs Bricks like characters, he is an ant-brick since his creation and since his complete character development has become even more effective vs Brick type.

Originally posted by redhotrash
He beats all martial artists because hes trained longer and can heal.
/B]

He beats all street level martial artist, because he posses superhuman physical stats in ever area, has magnitude durability, insane healing factor that gives him crazy damage soak, posses adamatium skeleton that make breaking his bones impossible which is a great advantage in a fight, he also posses Adamatium claws which can cut through anything and grants him great reach advantage while maintain a lower center of gravity and being a small target to hit being only 5 foot 3 inches, and then he has far more training by better master then almost all if not all street level martial artists and also posses decades more experience fighting then almost if not all street level martial artists.

Originally posted by redhotrash
[B]He beats all energy manipulators because he can use stealth and agility.

Not a single person said this unless the battle field was that of a woods or something that provided cover all around. Asside from that stealth would do nothing for him, and agility, reflex, speed and damage soak would be his assist, but this would have to be one piss more energy manipulator. Mostly you just made that up, in sad attempt to discredit defenders of wolverine.

Originally posted by redhotrash

He beats all telepaths because his skull makes him resistant.

Again no one has said this. He resistant, because the his mind has been shatter so many times that it is jumble mess, plus due to these trauma his body has created scar tissue that act as mental barriers from his own mind as well as those attempt to enter his mind shown on panel, as well as animalistic side that makes entering his mind even more difficult again shown on panel, he also posses a extremely strong will which cause certain types of telepathic assault mainly body possession extremely difficult as shown on panel and last but not least he posses level 9 psi blocker given to him by Professor X which again was state on panel.

Originally posted by redhotrash

He beats speedsters because he only has to hit them once.

I doubt anyone even said this, and context would be nice, such as which speedster, because it would not matter as many Wolverines supporters will be more then willing to admit if that speedster is simply to fast for his superhuman reflexes to hit, then being able to end the fight in a single shot would not matter not at all. Now assuming it was a speedster he could tag, then it would be his damage soak, tactical prowess's, senses and reflexes to over his ability to end the fight or severally weaken his opponent in a hit.

Originally posted by redhotrash
He can beat anyone with below cosmic durability because he has claws.

That utter bullshit to pretend the majority believes this. Hell here to examples for you srank believes Spider-man beats Wolverine 9/10 and and I believe depending on the scenario either one could take it 6/10, but I guess Spider-man must have cosmic level durability right. rolleyes:

Originally posted by redhotrash

Essentially, Wolverine only loses to Hulk (sometimes), Silver Surfer, and Superman. And those losses of course are by knockout or bfr, none of them can kill him.

Again more false garbage. In a forum battle Hulk beat Wolverine ever single time. Many character below the levels mention that people him the majority lets just name a few Omega Red, Venom, Carnage, Sabre-tooth, Daken, Gorgon, Sand man and hell even Punisher with some prep ect.

Superman could easily kill Wolverine by throwing him in the so, heat ray him untill he stops healing, throw him into the middle of space ect.

Silver Surfer could just turn him into anything he wants to simply kill him, throw him in the sun ect.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by -Pr-
that's not what i said at all. we all know how powerful zeus is. the fact that hercules is his son does insinuate that he is pretty powerful. plus, his history is pretty impressive too.

But just because your a god might mean you very strong, durable and immortal in a senses, but it not a reason for someone to win, though many people on the boards arguments tend to be "he a god, he wins" (not referring to you, jsut in general).

Wolverine has the title of Hand of God and the eternal warrior, it just a title.

Originally posted by -Pr-
i disagree. there can be a middle ground, and i think that's where sentry was when herc clobbered him.

I do when it terms of forum battles. It fine for the comic, it not pis or anything, but in a forum battle with Sentry using his full powers he should stomp Herc. Though in comics that was acceptable because Sentry does that all the time, and his cis and inexperience allow for him to make such foolish mistake. That's hardly reason for him to beat wolverine, him and sentry are not the same person nor is this in a comic, nor is wolverine inexperience or allows his cis to make stupid choices such as sentry.

Originally posted by -Pr-

his atlas feat alone shows massive strength. there are plenty of feats (as you know)

That atlas feat was him retelling an event that occured off panel. In mythology he was said to have lifted it, but in truth Athena was the one holding the vast majority of the weight with one hand no less.

Originally posted by -Pr-

from his incredible series alone that make him seem a lot more impressive than someone who would get stomped on.

I am referring to a forum battle, he get stomp Sentry feats out weight herc the good ones, his speed is vastly higher, so is his durability ect. However in a comic with cis, inexperienced and constant jobber of Sentry it is not a surprise that it occurred nor do i consider it PIS, but nor do I believe that would have occur in a forum match.

Originally posted by -Pr-

see, that's ABC logic. 😛

lol

Originally posted by -Pr-

he hit sentry more than sentry hit him. and he used venom to bludgeon him too, which was awesome.

I know, there good old Sentry again not utilizing or using his abilities or powers. That dude powers fluctuate more so then any character it seems, but given his mental state and abilities it actual part of his character as stupid as it sounds. Gargan well he just Venom version of the Rhino though it not surprizing Scorpion was a bad ass when he first came on the scene, but like most of spiderman villains he suffers from mental retardation.

SamZED Senior Member

How many times should Wolverine kick Herc's ass in comics for this thread to get closed?

jalek moye Ti Lun
Originally posted by SamZED
How many times should Wolverine kick Herc's ass in comics for this thread to get closed?

Even if he wins he is not kicking Hercs ass

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by jalek moye
Even if he wins he is not kicking Hercs ass
Why not? He has the speed and the means to kill Herc?

jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by SamZED
Why not? He has the speed and the means to kill Herc?

While he has speed he isn't fast to the point that he won't be hit. Herc has the means to KO Logan, and a weapon that he can actually block with instead of being forced to dodge. Also the reach isn't an issue when he has the mac.e So it makes it alot closer.

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by jalek moye
While he has speed he isn't fast to the point that he won't be hit. Herc has the means to KO Logan, and a weapon that he can actually block with instead of being forced to dodge. Also the reach isn't an issue when he has the mac.e So it makes it alot closer.

But ever hit wolverine lands is going to weaken Herc, especially to a vital area. When has Herc blocked with his mace? It not a defensive Weapon it almost completely offensive. The faster, more skilled fighter with weapons on both arms that can be disarmed is going to have quite an advantage.

Though I am still undecided.

Blanket Dead

Originally posted by Battlehammer
But ever hit wolverine lands is going to weaken Herc, especially to a vital area. When has Herc blocked with his mace? It not a defensive Weapon it almost completely offensive. The faster, more skilled fighter with weapons on both arms that can be disarmed is going to have quite an advantage.

Exactly. Wolverine wins 10/10

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Blanket
Exactly. Wolverine wins 10/10

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SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by jalek moye
While he has speed he isn't fast to the point that he won't be hit. Herc has the means to KO Logan, and a weapon that he can actually block with instead of being forced to dodge. Also the reach isn't an issue when he has the mac.e So it makes it alot closer.
I agree that mace makes it a better fight, but Wolverine definitely has the speed to dodge Herc long enough to seriously hurt him with his claws. I really dont think that Mace would help Herc to block every Logan's attack. Maybe like 2 outta 10. Wont make much of a difference.

Blanket Dead

Originally posted by Battlehammer
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jalek moye Ti Lun

Originally posted by Battlehammer
But ever hit wolverine lands is going to weaken Herc, especially to a vital area. When has Herc blocked with his mace? It not a defensive Weapon it almost completely offensive. The faster, more skilled fighter with weapons on both arms that can be disarmed is going to have quite an advantage.

Well he blocked multiple times in a fight with Thor, just saying that if he blocks it will protect him for awhile. Never said it gives him the win just that Wolverine isn't gonna walk all over him, and he could take a few stabs.

once again just arguing that it's not a walk over

Battlehammer Senior Member

Originally posted by Blanket
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nice.
lol what surprizes

should be good .

Spire Senior Member

Herc.

SamZED Senior Member

Originally posted by jalek moye
Well he blocked multiple times in a fight with Thor, just saying that if he blocks it will protect him for awhile. Never said it gives him the win just that Wolverine isn't gonna walk all over him, and he could take a few stabs.

once again just arguing that it's not a walk over

Agreed.