Spider-Man vs Beast, Nightcrawler & Gambit

Originally posted by Battlehammer
......stomps?

You have three individuals who can match Spider mans speed in combat, two of which are far more skilled and another of them has claws.

Oh yea. What was I thinking?

It might have been that Spidey's stronger than all three of them combined x 5. Any decent shot Spidey lands on them completely incapacitates them. Beast will be the last one standing, as having the ability to take the most punishment, but he won't be able to take it very long.

Will the team land a hit on Spidey? Maybe. But they won't be nearly as effective as his hits on them.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Oh yea. What was I thinking?

It might have been that Spidey's stronger than all three of them combined x 5. Any decent shot Spidey lands on them completely incapacitates them. Beast will be the last one standing, as having the ability to take the most punishment, but he won't be able to take it very long.

Will the team land a hit on Spidey? Maybe. But they won't be nearly as effective as his hits on them.

So he stronger? There still all strong enough to hurt him. Two of which are quote abit more skilled then him and would make every hit count. says you, Night crawler been stated with enahnced durbaility and he also ahs enhanced strength. He spiderman agility, reflexes, but also far more skilled. To think Spiderman stomps all three at onces is laughable more bias then anything.

Beast last the longest? hell no NC would be the last to fall.

Will they? They most certainly will. There 3 of them each possing superhuman reflexes, agility ect. It not a maybe it a fact they will land hits to say other wises is rediculous. Not really suriprized though it not the first time you vastly overrate spidermna.

Oh and gambit still has his powers they were not stripped, take a look at the op. if he even touches spiderman it be over and he coudl and would touch him.

NC taken it to spiderman with out his teleportation by him self, let a lone with two other meta next to him fighting.

spiderman stomps 😆 I wish i could say I was surprized by sadly I am not it not the first or the last time you vastly overrate spiderman

Originally posted by KingD19
Nightcrawler effortlessly dodges bullets, I can put up scans for you.

And Gambit has done it a couple times as well.

Nightcrawler can effortless dodge my ass. Again dodge means

To move out of the way after the projection is headed towards one.

It doesn't mean to move out of the way before the projection is headed towards them. For example, Spidey truly dodges bullets but not lasers. He moves out of the way before the laser are fired.

If you disagree then post scans showing both Nightcrawler and Gambit dodging a single bullet after it has been fired. After is the key. Otherwise it is speculation.

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
gambit dodges alien tech lasers inside a trap room with flying spheres that were keyed to him in an enclose environment.

😛

gambit can easily keep up with spidey his comic showed it to be so.. 😎

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/9139/gambit05115fh.jpg

http://img52.imageshack.us/i/gambit01239ar.jpg/

http://img206.imageshack.us/i/gambit01244wm.jpg/

That is not dodging.

Originally posted by KingD19
Dodging rapid-fire robot lasers/bullets - http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/uncanny118mandriod.gif

Again dodging rapid fire - http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l130/Red_Atom/Nightcrawler/dodgebullets.gif

That's not dodging.

Spite. The fact that Gambit can now go Death mode again doesn't help.

Spidey can one shot everyone except Beast. Beast goes down last with a small fury of blows.

Funny he didn't do that in the fight with Kurt. NC has enhanced durability.

I'd love to see him one-shotting Death Gambit.

Spidey holds back or inconsistent writing. The fact is Kurt isn't bullet proof and Spidey punches with far more force than bullet force.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey holds back or inconsistent writing. The fact is Kurt isn't bullet proof and Spidey punches with far more force than bullet force.

durability against blunt force =/= durability against piercing attacks

Parker isn't bulletproof either...

Tell me how those aren't legitimate dodging feats for NC and Gambit?? You're just assuming that they moved before they were fired upon??? Lol

They can "keep up" with him in speed a bit, but I don't know about being exactly as fast.

team ftw

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
durability against blunt force =/= durability against piercing attacks

Parker isn't bulletproof either...

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
durability against blunt force =/= durability against piercing attacks

Parker isn't bulletproof either...

Spidey can use his fingers (but that will kill them) lol.

But seriously you are right. It takes less force for a piercing object to penetrate over a blunt object.

The pressure needed is P=F/A where P is pressure, F is force, and A is surface area.

So for Spidey to have the same penetrating power (pressure) with his fist he would need to accelerate his fist to a speed of about 80% of that of a bullet if hitting with his top two knuckles. I think he can punch with this speed with no problems.

so ur basically saying is spidey can reach mach speed with his reflex reaction when he punches to nearly match the velocity of a bullet?

Originally posted by Wild Shadow
so ur basically saying is spidey can reach mach speed with his reflex reaction when he punches to nearly match the velocity of a bullet?

His reflex reaction is off the charts. Partly because it is precog (Spider sense) and partly because it is stated to be 40times faster than a normal human. So even without his spidey sense he sees a 1000mph bullet as if it is traveling at 25mph (in super slow motion).
This is like an Olympic sprinter running at you from 30 ft away and you have to get out of his way. Very easy to do.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
I dont know what you were thinking to be honest.

So he stronger? There still all strong enough to hurt him. Two of which are quote abit more skilled then him and would make every hit count. says you, Night crawler been stated with enahnced durbaility and he also ahs enhanced strength. He spiderman agility, reflexes, but also far more skilled. To think Spiderman stomps all three at onces is laughable more bias then anything.

Beast last the longest? hell no NC would be the last to fall.

Will they? They most certainly will. There 3 of them each possing superhuman reflexes, agility ect. It not a maybe it a fact they will land hits to say other wises is rediculous. Not really suriprized though it not the first time you vastly overrate spidermna.

Oh and gambit still has his powers they were not stripped, take a look at the op. if he even touches spiderman it be over and he coudl and would touch him.

NC taken it to spiderman with out his teleportation by him self, let a lone with two other meta next to him fighting.

spiderman stomps 😆 I wish i could say I was surprized by sadly I am not it not the first or the last time you vastly overrate spiderman

🙄

OP even said "no explosions". Correct me if I'm wrong, but I take that to mean all combatants cannot use their powers other than their inherent physical abilities.

There are scans in secret wars of Spider-Man owning Wolverine Nightcrawler Rogue Cyclops. Wolverine says something to the effect of Spider-Man owning them.

Wouldn't be surprising if spidey put away these 3. If you factor in his webbing he should be able to just cocoon beast and eliminate him as a factor. Would gambit have any way to escape getting wrapped in webs? I'm not that familiar with where his powers are at right now.