Originally posted by ExodusCloak
I didn't read it that way at all, what makes you say that?
Namor: "Dont fight me, Marrina. Don't think.." then it cuts to a flashback of Marrina (unmutated) with Namor. That flashback could very well been Marrinas and she just listened to Namor as she knew she became a monster.
Originally posted by snoopdogg
She wasn't even that large. Colossus or Rockslide could have lifted her.
Yep, she was a far cry from what she appeared in Avengers
Originally posted by -K-M-
Namor: "Dont fight me, Marrina. Don't think.." then it cuts to a flashback of Marrina (unmutated) with Namor. That flashback could very well been Marrinas and she just listened to Namor as she knew she became a monster.
He then killed it by ripping her head off and leaving it on Osborns desk? Yes very respectful to someone who allowed themselves to be killed. Doesn't make sense it was just Fraction explaining who the heck Marrina was for new readers. If she wasn't fighting back he wouldn't have disposed of her so callously Namor is more honourable then that.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
He then killed it by ripping her head off and leaving it on Osborns desk? Yes very respectful to someone who allowed themselves to be killed. Doesn't make sense it was just Fraction explaining who the heck Marrina was for new readers. If she wasn't fighting back he wouldn't have disposed of her so callously Namor is more honourable then that.
Ummm..are you forgetting he wanted to cut her head off with the Ebony Blade before? Naaaa..it was a flashback it wasn't for the readers as mentioned in a interview/review of the issue on cbr
He even was making a joke about ex-wives before she came to Utopia. Also how else is Namor going to kill Marrina? cutting off someone's head is one of the quickest and painless deaths there are.
Originally posted by KingD19
I think he was proving a point...Don't f*ck with the Sub-Mariner.
With the Norman desk scene? Most definetly.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Ummm..are you forgetting he wanted to cut her head off with the Ebony Blade before? Naaaa..it was a flashback it wasn't for the readers as mentioned in a interview/review of the issue on cbrHe even was making a joke about ex-wives before she came to Utopia. Also how else is Namor going to kill Namor? cutting off someone's head is one of the quickest and painless deaths there are.
There is nothing to suggest that she was fighting back, Iceman, Surge and a big explosion drew it near enough for Namor to take care of it. That flashback seems more like Namor remembering then the his wife. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that was the case, she was turned into a creature of hate and rage (The Cuckoos confirmed this) heck her eyes were still spewing energy right before he beheaded her.
Leaving her head on Osborns desk is still disrespectful had there been any part of his wife left in that creature.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
There is nothing to suggest that she was fighting back, Iceman, Surge and a big explosion drew it near enough for Namor to take care of it. That flashback seems more like Namor remembering then the his wife. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that was the case, she was turned into a creature of hate and rage heck her eyes were still spewing energy right before he beheaded her.Leaving her head on Osborns desk is still disrespectful had there been any part of his wife left in that creature.
What? Yes she was fighting the X-Men, but the Namor talk triggered the flashback and she has been calmed down before just by talking to her. So no its not really farfetched at all. Ummm..her eyes were pretty much glowing all the time *shrugs*
Hes done worse to other lovers before, and even to Marrina prior to this *shrugs* In addition the desk scene was away for Namor to show Norman cant get to him as this ploy was supposed to attack his emotions. If she did show emoitions, Norman would have utilitzed it. That's what was said in the review/interview at least
Originally posted by -K-M-
What? Yes she was fighting the X-Men, but the Namor talk triggered the flashback and she has been calmed down before just by talking to her. So no its not really farfetched at all. Ummm..her eyes were pretty much glowing all the time *shrugs*Hes done worse to other lovers before, and even to Marrina prior to this *shrugs*
I'm sorry Mungi but that sounds absolutely absurd 😬.
I realize that she's ex-Alpha Flight and been portrayed a lot stronger before but seriously.
There wasn't even a hint from Namor that she fought back. The Cuckoos confirmed that there was nothing there but Rage and Anger. The flashback was Namors not Marrina's, after all he told her not to "think" right before he beheaded her remember.
BTW Her eyes were not glowing all the time and I have no idea what you mean by this review:
I think you need to read her apperances in Alpha Flight and Avengers, and the same thing happened to her and they talked her down before
How do you know its Namors again? From the interview/review which explained the desk scene suggested it was hers *shrugs*
Read what I said, I said pretty much. I havn't seen that review before
Originally posted by -K-M-
I think you need to read her apperances in Alpha Flight and Avengers, and the same thing happened to her and they talked her down beforeHow do you know its Namors again? From the interview/review which explained the desk scene suggested it was hers *shrugs*
Because he told her not to "think" and the Cuckoos explained that there's nothing there but hunger, rage and hate.
This review?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=1419&page=user_review
I have read all of Fractions interviews since coming to Uncanny he said nothing like that.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Because he told her not to "think" and the Cuckoos explained that there's nothing there but hunger, rage and hate.This review?
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?id=1419&page=user_review
I have read all of Fractions interview since coming to Uncanny he said nothing like that.
Like I said same thing happened countless times in Alpha Flight and Avengers and they still calmed her down. Even that comment is similar to what the Master said about Plodex Marrina 😬
No, I will see if I can dig it up.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Like I said same thing happened countless times in Alpha Flight and Avengers and they still calmed her down. Even that comment is similar to what the Master said about Plodex Marrina 😬No, I will see if I can dig it up.
The Cuckoos are top tier telepaths, they were reiterating the point that there was nothing left of his wife in that monster. Hence the panel where one of the Cuckoos tries to comfort Namor.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually now your being a tad absurb now, Namor tells her to not think so she doesn't (as you say) and just prior she tells him not to fight but she still does? Hmmmm...
Nope that's not what I was saying at all I was proving that your interpretation is wrong because if it was right she would have listened to Namor on both occasions which she didn't. Your explanation is he told her not to fight back, she listened. He told her not to think but she did?? That was Namor having the flashback and that was Namor trying to show some compassion to his wife. "Don't think" is what you would tell a dog right before you put it down.
Mine is she was fighting back and she couldn't understand a word that he was saying because the Cuckoos confirmed that there was nothing left of his wife in that monster.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
The Cuckoos are top tier telepaths, they were reiterating the point that there was nothing left of his wife in that monster. Hence the panel where one of the Cuckoos tries to comfort Namor.
The Master has been studying the Plodex for 40,000 years and has had first hand experience. I would tend to take the Master's comments as facts 😬
Originally posted by -K-M-
The Master has been studying the Plodex for 40,000 years and has had first hand experience. I would tend to take the Master's comments as facts 😬
This is a vastly modified version I'm afraid. And again the Cuckoos confirmed that there was nothing left of his wife.
BTW I'm one of the few who like Fraction and I believe you are giving him too much credit.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Nope that's not what I was saying at all I was proving that your interpretation is wrong because if it was right she would have listened to Namor on both occasions which she didn't. Your explanation is he told her not to fight back, she listened. He told her not to think but she did?? That was Namor having the flashback and that was Namor trying to show some compassion to his wife. "Don't think" is what you would tell her dog right before you put it down.Mine is she was fighting back and she couldn't understand a word that he was saying because the Cuckoos confirmed that there was nothing left of his wife in that monster.
So you will take the whole "dont think" comment to indicate that is was Namor's memories, but you still believe Marrina was fighting back? Uh huh...past experience with Marrina and Namor would tend to go against your opinion. I don't know for sure if she did or not, but it would be highly likely as she has asked her friends to kill her before (not including the Namor Avengers issue) when she lost control. Also no you wouldn't at all, and I have had to put my dogs down 😬.
Once again same thing has happened before and wasn't the case. Why are you ignoring that? 😬
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
This is a vastly modified version I'm afraid. And again the Cuckoos confirmed that there was nothing left of his wife.BTW I lone of the few who like Fraction and I believe you are giving him too much credit.
Ummm...please read Avengers or Alpha Flight as Master has manipulated Plodex DNA into new creatures for centuries. Once again they said the SAME THING about Marrina before and she overcame it 😬
Why? Im not the only one who thought this.
Originally posted by -K-M-
So you will take the whole "dont think" comment to indicate that is was Namor's memories, but you still believe Marrina was fighting back?
Ummm what? You're the one who believes Marrina was fighting back.
I don't I believe she had no mind to even recognize who the hell Namor is.
Uh huh...past experience with Marrina and Namor would tend to go against your opinion. I don't know for sure if she did or not, but it would be highly likely as she has asked her friends to kill her before (not including the Namor Avengers issue) when she lost control. Also no you wouldn't at all, and I have had to put my dogs down 😬.
Yes, yes you would. When you have to kill something you care about you want them to be in as little pain as possible. That is Namor trying to comfort her before killing her. If you ever read Of Mice and Men you know what I mean.
Once again same thing has happened before and wasn't the case. Why are you ignoring that? 😬
Because Fraction doesn't give a rats about continuity and that has NOTHING to do with this story.
Why are you ignoring the part of the story were the Cuckoos explain that there's nothing there but rage, hunger and hate.
Ummm...please read Avengers or Alpha Flight as Master has manipulated Plodex DNA into new creatures for centuries. Once again they said the SAME THING about Marrina before and she overcame it 😬Why? Im not the only one who thought this. [/B]
What part of completely different story and monster don't you understand?
If you are that upset that she had low showing chalk it up to bad writing don't try to convolute things. Iceman had a low showing in this story too.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Ummm what? You're the one who believes Marrina was fighting back.I don't I believe she had no mind to even recognize who the hell Namor is.
Wait Im confused...I don't think she was fighting back. I thought you were saying she was fighting back.
Same thing happened
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Yes, yes you would. When you have to kill something you care about you want them to be in as little pain as possible. That is Namor trying to comfort her.
No you wouldn't, if you want to make it quick you would just do it not prolong it. Like you said there is nothing apparently left in her so what is he comforting then? 😬
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
Because Fraction doesn't give a rats about continuity and that has NOTHING to do with this story.Why are you ignoring the part of the story were the Cuckoos explain that there's nothing left.
Proof?
Because Im not, people who know more about the Plodex, who have manipulated the Plodex on a grandier scale then adding shark dna into the system said the exact same thing and AF has telepaths too.
Originally posted by ExodusCloak
What part of completely different story don't you understand.If you are that upset that she had low showing chalk it up to bad writing don't try to convolute things.
Actually its a very similar story to what has happened several times before. That's the point 😬 There really isn't much difference in this story then the ones in Avengers and Alpha Flight. Have you read them?
Errrr? Im not in the least. I think it was a excellent showing to be honest.