Will batman suffer the 3rd movie suckage?

Started by steverules_26 pages

Will batman suffer the 3rd movie suckage?

It seems to be a sort of...thing that happens with good superhero movies. If we look at the x-men, 1 and 2 were brilliant especially number 2, superman and superman 2 both great films again no.2 was really good, same with spiderman and blade. But then..they did a 3rd film, superman 3 was terrible seeing as in the end the main villain was some crappy computer that neally suffocated supes which is silly seeing how supes can I believe hold his breath for 20 minutes. Spiderman 3 was terrible, they ruined Venom and the storyline was basically MJ getting kidnapped AGAIN! X-men 3 this was worse than spiderman 3 by a long shot and again a character ruined, the phoenix, I had high hopes for X3 during the end of X2 when they showed the phoenix shape in the water. Blade 3, dracula looked like a homo to me, and again a character ruined.

The original batman films with Keaton were pretty good, not as good as the new ones with Bale but still...then came batman forever, they had Riddler and Two face, with two great actors portraying the two and Kilmer as batman...seemed like a pretty good set of actors and two great villains..how could it go wrong?

So with this said..could batman 3 suck? or will it be the first third sequel superhero movie that actually doesn't suck monkey balls?

i don't think it will, but i will wait until after i see it

There's no way it'll be able to live up to the hype its gonna recieve. But who knows if it'll suck or not.

There was loadsa hype for spiderman 3 and look how that turned out

Originally posted by Micheal_Myers
There's no way it'll be able to live up to the hype its gonna recieve. But who knows if it'll suck or not.

ITA

Originally posted by steverules_2
There was loadsa hype for spiderman 3 and look how that turned out

True, but don't put Batman 3 in the same category just yet

As I mention before...Nolan MUST drive this franchise to a "Detective Batman" area for this franchise to come full circle. We seen the begining...battle his arch nemesis...and now the 3rd most important factor of the Batman myth...his detective skills.

If he does that...suckage or not..Nolan truly have given us the FULL Batman.

"World's Greatest Detective" is the proper title for the 3rd film.

If it sucks then I'm sure that chances are batman will be far from detective

i liked blade 3 and xmen 3 they were good movies IMO.
i think all the spiderman movies were mediocer at best and at the time superman 1 and 2 were good but now... they are OK i think because margot kidder is annoying and the richard donner version of 2 is wayyyyy better. 3 and 4 were complete shit. (funny story i was at future shop and they had superman 3 in the bargin bin at the till for 5 bucks and a guy saw it and said to the cashier in a serious tone, that is the best one.)
provided chis nolan stays and they take there time and make a good story with some well placed or directed actors 3 should be good. but i fear if they hand it off to someone else then it will probably suck. and keep it to 1 or 2 villans tops.

Thats what happened in with x-men 3, it got given to someone else cuz Ratner went and did superman returns, can't remember who did X3 but I really hated it and was very dissapointed in the direction they went with Dark phoenix and plus I think the storyline in general was just a complete mess

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
As I mention before...Nolan MUST drive this franchise to a "Detective Batman" area for this franchise to come full circle. We seen the begining...battle his arch nemesis...and now the 3rd most important factor of the Batman myth...his detective skills.

If he does that...suckage or not..Nolan truly have given us the FULL Batman.

"World's Greatest Detective" is the proper title for the 3rd film.

I too would like to see this. I want Nolan to take a risk and give us a Batman movie with a completely different atmosphere, one that has smart twists and holysheet endings.

Because that's certainly part of what Batman has been about. There are some serious threats out in gotham, you know he's prepping something, but he doesn't reveal it until the end, and then you see the genius of the prep-master.

I remember when batman was detective comics but we never really get to see a detective batman in the movies

Originally posted by steverules_2
I remember when batman was detective comics but we never really get to see a detective batman in the movies

Well, I saw Nolan trying to show a bit of the detective side of Batman in TDK, but it was quite superficial.

Basically I am thinking of the scene where Batman examines the block of concrete where the bullet entered and then he found something with it (forgot what). But it was all really relying on technology and does not show off Batman's own innate detective skills or genius at all.

Originally posted by steverules_2
Thats what happened in with x-men 3, it got given to someone else cuz Ratner went and did superman returns, can't remember who did X3 but I really hated it and was very dissapointed in the direction they went with Dark phoenix and plus I think the storyline in general was just a complete mess

It was Rater who did X-men 3 not Superman Returns....

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
As I mention before...Nolan MUST drive this franchise to a "Detective Batman" area for this franchise to come full circle. We seen the begining...battle his arch nemesis...and now the 3rd most important factor of the Batman myth...his detective skills.

If he does that...suckage or not..Nolan truly have given us the FULL Batman.

"World's Greatest Detective" is the proper title for the 3rd film.

They definatley have to stick with the look and feel that he is merely a man and not a super hero in the general term but he does have the money and know how to have some kick ass detective skills.
a better title would be Gothams Dark Protector
or Shawdow Knight. (this would implement that Gotham is ready to accept him back)

Well if Chris Nolan gets on his blog or twitter or whatever he may have and writes "I was watching George Clooney on old episodes of Roseanne last night and realized that as much as I love the dark Batman and the campy Batman was the rage in the 60's, I don't think that gay Batman really had a chance to flourish over two movies. I'm replacing Christian Bale with Billy Baldwin and signing Andy Dick to play Robin and Damon Wayans wearing Eartha Kitt's corpse will be catwoman."-I'd be worried.

Originally posted by Placidity

Because that's certainly part of what Batman has been about. There are some serious threats out in gotham, you know he's prepping something, but he doesn't reveal it until the end, and then you see the genius of the prep-master.

Which is precisly the reason Riddler is the essential choice for villain in the third film.

We seen Nolan's Batman born.

We seen Nolan's Batman face his most dangerous nemesis.

We now need to see Nolan's Batman be challenge in the Brain department by his most dangerous smartest villain.

On the same note.

A Youtuber made a fan-made trailer which pretty much hits it right on the head of the nail.

YouTube video

They have to make the riddlers riddles more difficult for Batman and mean more than just what he is going to attack.
Not like the original show, they solved them in 2 seconds and in batman forever which sucked he figured them out very quickly too.

Originally posted by WickedDynamite
Which is precisly the reason Riddler is the essential choice for villain in the third film.

We seen Nolan's Batman born.

We seen Nolan's Batman face his most dangerous nemesis.

We now need to see Nolan's Batman be challenge in the Brain department by his most dangerous smartest villain.

On the same note.

A Youtuber made a fan-made trailer which pretty much hits it right on the head of the nail.

YouTube video

Originally posted by darthmaul1
They have to make the riddlers riddles more difficult for Batman and mean more than just what he is going to attack.
Not like the original show, they solved them in 2 seconds and in batman forever which sucked he figured them out very quickly too.

ITA, but i hope the title is Shadow of the Bat though

Riddler may be the most predictable choice for whose next, but he's certainly not "essential". They could very well have any villain besides him.
Also, Nigma is overrated.

As for the topic, I dunno. I think a more important question though would be, will Batman suffer a 4th movie suckage again? (assuming the 3rd installment is successful and popular enough for a sequel)

Originally posted by Kazenji
It was Rater who did X-men 3 not Superman Returns....

I'm getting mixed up, yeah Ratner did X3 and Bryan Singer did X1 and 2 and then Superman returns 🙂

Originally posted by Placidity
Well, I saw Nolan trying to show a bit of the detective side of Batman in TDK, but it was quite superficial.

Basically I am thinking of the scene where Batman examines the block of concrete where the bullet entered and then he found something with it (forgot what). But it was all really relying on technology and does not show off Batman's own innate detective skills or genius at all.

He found a fingerprint