Thanos Vs Thor, Superman, Silver Surfer and Alan Scott

Originally posted by Naija boy
heh i forgot the dark gods incident. i dont count the galactus thing so much because he was starving and exhausted from his ego fight (thors own admission).but yeah looking it the dark gods incident it should knock out thanos. But i doubt it penetrates the shields. The shields have taken hits from Omega (2 times the power of galactus) and a well fed G got drained while trying to bust thru them (i really hate that feat though).

Come on big guy... That was a very good feat and is consistent with Thanos and his shielding 😄

As I ask Rage.. I want to see her durability feats before I can sit her and say he's on Thanos level. Just because your a skyfather doesn't mean you have uber insane durability higher than all below you. Other factors as I pointed out can make you a skyfather.

Originally posted by Naija boy
heh i forgot the dark gods incident. i dont count the galactus thing so much because he was starving and exhausted from his ego fight (thors own admission).but yeah looking it the dark gods incident it should knock out thanos. But i doubt it penetrates the shields. The shields have taken hits from Omega (2 times the power of galactus) and a well fed G got drained while trying to bust thru them (i really hate that feat though).

The issue before the God Blast, they spent like 10 pages talking about how Galactus just recently wrecked havoc in that Galaxy consuming Living Worlds. Wasn't that the case? Bullshit attempt to put that event in Galactus' favor.

Also he fought Ego for like a few pages, and didn't seem exhausted at all. Just saying....

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
The issue before the God Blast, they spent like 10 pages talking about how Galactus just recently wrecked havoc in that Galaxy consuming Living Worlds. Wasn't that the case? Bullshit attempt to put that event in Galactus' favor.

Also he fought Ego for like a few pages, and didn't seem exhausted at all. Just saying....

Heh. i just consider it a recton of the event. In those days galactus had such up and down showings ( and still at times does) that he deserves to be cut a little slack.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Come on big guy... That was a very good feat and is consistent with Thanos and his shielding 😄

As I ask Rage.. I want to see her durability feats before I can sit her and say he's on Thanos level. Just because your a skyfather doesn't mean you have uber insane durability higher than all below you. Other factors as I pointed out can make you a skyfather.

lol. i dont have to like it though

Also i see what u mean. The way i see it though they had to have a high level durability individually (maybe thanos was still higher at that point) or they couldnt have beaten Odin. However when u look at the fact that they then combined into one being the durability would have skyrocketed, and then add Odins power as well and it would go even higher. Of course she didnt have as many feats to show this as thanos does but she appeared in only a few issues. RKT thor doesnt have thanos durability feats but im pretty sure he is more durable than thanos and the same goes for alot of abstracts even.

Still i dont think it should matter to much cuz of thanos shields.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
The first problem with what your saying is this.. what were her durability feats that puts her on Thanos level? Being a skyfather encompasses a lot of different variables that gives you such a title. Durability, power output, feats, versatility etc etc. Just because your claiming she was a skyfather and maybe so but that doesn't mean her durability is thus greater than Thanos. So, first I'm asking for her durability feats and her feats in general that you are places her at this level. Of course, I'm of the opinion that Thanos himself is skyfather material even if on the low side.

None that I recall. At least none that stood out. I see your point, and I would have agreed it wouldn't have been impressive except that Thor did this. At her original levels she was already at the High end of Skyfathers (Odin was beaten by her in the original war between the Dark Gods apparently.), and then she created the Union (She absorbed all the Dark Gods power. Her entire Kingdom. Dark Gods had beings like Perrikus who was a beast. This dude was taking on Hercules and the Destroyer at the same time easily.). So that means her own power which was already high end, the power of the Union, and the power of Odin added on top of all that. What makes it more impressive though, was when she unleashing all the power at her disposal it took the form of a Force Field/Energy encircling her body when Thor attacked her(She even bragged about how he can't hurt her etc.). Even with all this power, she was one shotted. Possessing the power of Odin,alone would make her durability skyrocket to ridiculous levels. Her durability had to be at the top end of Skyfather poll easily(If she had more showings, I would have probably said Abstract.). The fact that it took the form of energy encircling and protecting her and Thor easily broke through it makes it so impressive.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Second, Galactus was very weak when said blast occurred so while cool and looks neat I don't know how much weight that has.

You mean that bullshit, where it said in the annual he was hungry? The writer should have read the issue before Thor fought Galactus, where they emphasize on Galactus' hunger rampage. Just saying. He did fight Ego, but he was winning in the end and certainly didn't seem exhausted at all. He was bragging about his power etc. Just saying. A retcon is a retcon though if we can call it that, so whatever....

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
It has shown to weaken thor in the past which thus could cause issues for thor.

Actually he doesn't get any weaker after the God Blast. Just re-read Thor #338 and #339.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Furthermore, Thanos isn't going to just sit there and let Thor do this and just try and walk right through it... All though... :-) .

I never claimed Thor, would defeat him, just so you know, but there is no denying he has the tools for the job. Anyways.....Thor can simply wait for the right moment, if he used his barriers. Thanos isn't going to get past that, with power or force, unless "Thanos > Power to Destroy 1/5 of the 616".

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Point is, are you claiming the God Blast is that much more powerful than a Blast from a pissed off Galactus who was well-fed

Scans. You are referring to the instance, Thanos takes Galactus by surprise, shoots him out on to the moon, and Galactus returns, blasting him with one hand and Thanos teleported away? That's why I asked for scans. Haven't seen it in a while.

And yes, I do believe a God Blast is more powerful than a generic blast from Galactus (Depending on how much power he puts behind it of course.) Just saying.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
or a from Omega who as we know was stated to be close to Galactus power level. His shields held up to both of those blasts from way way way more powerful characters than Thor. So, what are you basing this theory that Thor's God Blast can even penetrate Thanos's shields?

Only read this once, so I can't comment on it. Wasn't it just a generic blast? To be safe post scans, or tell me the issue number, so I can comment on it, with context. Just to be safe. 😄

They are far beyond Thor clearly, but a single blast unless they puts a lot of power (They being Galactus and Omega.) is not more powerful than a God Blast. Just saying.

Because they penetrated the shields of someone more powerful than Thanos is all.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Even without his shields we've seen Thanos insane durability and him walking through a pissed off Odin's blast with gungnir who was trying to kill Thanos. So, I assume your saying the GodBlast is THAT much more power than a blast from odin with his spear which not only didn't KO but he WALKED RIGHT THROUGH IT.

Yes. We've already seen that the God Blast can put down someone with the Odin Force or at least a portion of it. It will never work on Odin though. Odin is beyond Thor and can even take away his powers at will.

Also no, Odin was not trying to kill Thanos. Not even close. Why do you think he kept asking him to yield?

And surviving an onslaught from Odin is impressive no doubt. Not trying to discredit his showing. Of course, Thor himself has survived an onslaught from an angry Odin. This was Classic Odin mind you. Just saying. Thor's damage soak is ridiculous as well.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Third, again lets remember Thanos has super fast reaction times as we've seen on panel. So, what is stopping Thanos from teleporting away once Thors fires his blast?

Nothing really. If he sees it coming, and teleports away, great for him. Thor simply stops attacking. Also, take into account, I never said Thor will win, just that he has the tools necessary to win.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
None that I recall. At least none that stood out. I see your point, and I would have agreed it wouldn't have been impressive except that Thor did this. At her original levels she was already at the High end of Skyfathers (Odin was beaten by her in the original war between the Dark Gods apparently.), and then she created the Union (She absorbed all the Dark Gods power. Her entire Kingdom. Dark Gods had beings like Perrikus who was a beast. This dude was taking on Hercules and the Destroyer at the same time easily.). So that means her own power which was already high end, the power of the Union, and the power of Odin added on top of all that. What makes it more impressive though, was when she unleashing all the power at her disposal it took the form of a Force Field/Energy encircling her body when Thor attacked her(She even bragged about how he can't hurt her etc.). Even with all this power, she was one shotted. Possessing the power of Odin,alone would make her durability skyrocket to ridiculous levels. Her durability had to be at the top end of Skyfather poll easily(If she had more showings, I would have probably said Abstract.). The fact that it took the form of energy encircling and protecting her and Thor easily broke through it makes it so impressive.

You mean that bullshit, where it said in the annual he was hungry? The writer should have read the issue before Thor fought Galactus, where they emphasize on Galactus' hunger rampage. Just saying. He did fight Ego, but he was winning in the end and certainly didn't seem exhausted at all. He was bragging about his power etc. Just saying. A retcon is a retcon though if we can call it that, so whatever....

Actually he doesn't get any weaker after the God Blast. Just re-read Thor #338 and #339.

I never claimed Thor, would defeat him, just so you know, but there is no denying he has the tools for the job. Anyways.....Thor can simply wait for the right moment, if he used his barriers. Thanos isn't going to get past that, with power or force, unless "Thanos > Power to Destroy 1/5 of the 616".

Scans. You are referring to the instance, Thanos takes Galactus by surprise, shoots him out on to the moon, and Galactus returns, blasting him with one hand and Thanos teleported away? That's why I asked for scans. Haven't seen it in a while.

And yes, I do believe a God Blast is more powerful than a generic blast from Galactus (Depending on how much power he puts behind it of course.) Just saying.

Only read this once, so I can't comment on it. Wasn't it just a generic blast? To be safe post scans, or tell me the issue number, so I can comment on it, with context. Just to be safe. 😄

They are far beyond Thor clearly, but a single blast unless they puts a lot of power (They being Galactus and Omega.) is not more powerful than a God Blast. Just saying.

Because they penetrated the shields of someone more powerful than Thanos is all.

Yes. We've already seen that the God Blast can put down someone with the Odin Force or at least a portion of it. It will never work on Odin though. Odin is beyond Thor and can even take away his powers at will.

Also no, Odin was not trying to kill Thanos. Not even close. Why do you think he kept asking him to yield?

And surviving an onslaught from Odin is impressive no doubt. Not trying to discredit his showing. Of course, Thor himself has survived an onslaught from an angry Odin. This was Classic Odin mind you. Just saying. Thor's damage soak is ridiculous as well.

Nothing really. If he sees it coming, and teleports away, great for him. Thor simply stops attacking. Also, take into account, I never said Thor will win, just that he has the tools necessary to win.

1. I do agree with how powerful she was with all she absorbed. All of the Dark Gods plus Odin would make one powerful person indeed. I will concede that Thor penetrating that "shielding" or whatever that was around her is impressive and does speak to the God blasts power. However, I never really questioned its power to begin with. What I will say and what I think needs to be possibly factored in is this.... I think it's logical to assume she had pretty good durability to beat all she did. That is fine. However, I would also point out that ones power output could be that much better than the people she faced, not that her durability is superior. If she fires and said person can't take it.. that doesn't really prove nor show she had great durability. One could assume that when she got Odin's power her durability increased. However, that is just an assumption as we don't know what exactly happens when she absorb his power. She could've gotten in increase in some areas and not others. Who is to say it increased her durability. Point is, yes that is possible that it did, but we just don't know what levels she was it and what exactly was increased by the absorption in question. Along with we don't know about her durablity as he offensive output could've been the key factor in her victories not her durablity. However, its also possible what your saying as well.

2. Whether you like it or not it was later stated he was hungry. I also think that it's consistent with him fighting Ego who does job but is also no joke. So, I think it's perfectly reasonable that he was hungry and weak and it was stated as so, even if later.

3. Really? If he doesn't get weaker then I stand corrected. However, I could've sworn that he did. It seems kinda odd he could use so much of his Godly essence into one blast and it not weaken him at all. Meh

4. I agree with you, Thor has the best chance to get the job done imo. Of course, I don't feel he would but out of these 4 he does. Actually, out of any herald level person, Thor has the tools fighting at full potential to give Thanos the most trouble.

5. Yes that is what I'm referring to. However, this was no generic blast. He states he was going to kill Thanos i.e. he was out for the kill. The key though.. He said he's NEVER had to work so hard to break a mere shield. He worked so hard in fact that he depleted vital energies and had to leave to go feed. So, we have a well fed galactus stating what he did, seems very clear this was no generic blast by any means. Thus, imo that blast was more than any Thor God blast. Of course we have no way to measure such things, but we have one character vastly more powerful than another. That to me at least, speaks towards logically that being the more powerful blast. Also, even Thor's God blast didn't effect Galactus the way Thanos's did. Thor's was from behind and didn't send him flying the way Thanos did. By the way Thanos didn't cheap shot Galactus they were looking at each other talking. Just pointing out the punch that Thanos can deliver using a common foe and Thor's most powerful attack.

6. The Omega blast again.. there was no way to say how powerful it was. What we do know is that Omega was stated to be twice as powerful as Galactus. Granted, that is just a statement but the fact remains the writer was clearly trying to portray him as a serious threat and on a certain level whether we like it or not. He was firing a continuous blast at thanos that lasted a decent period of time. He was pissed and out to kill Thanos as he had just teleported his intended target away. So Thanos then got the brunt of that anger and blast. His shields help up even though it was taxing them. Again, we have to look at someone considerably more powerful than Thor out to kill Thanos. No matter how much of his Godly essence Thor puts into his blast he's not even close to the level of these two. Thus to me at least, that speaks to Thanos shields certainly being able to take a God blast and probably multiple ones.

Again though, this is discrediting Thor's attack in the least. It's damn powerful and if thanos didn't have his shields.. while I don't think it would KO him it would certainly hurt him. Point is, it's very powerful and has been shown as such.

7. I'm unclear how you can say Odin was not trying to kill thanos when on panel he says and implies that very thing. You can't say ooo well he asked him to yield so he wasn't out for the kill and ignore the fact that he said that very thing. His son was trapped... is asgardian army had just been pwned as well as asgard basically being invaded... thanos was mocking him... and he pulls out gungnir and basically says this will finish of Thanos. The whole story and chain of events certainly points to odin being out for the kill and pissed. Was he going all out no I don't think so in the least. However, it's undisputable he was pissed and out for the kill in my opinion as he says that very thing. Even if you don't like the out for the kill used multiple times you would have to concede he was certainly pissed and wanting to put him down. To build on that.. we know Odin is beyond Thor and packs more of a punch than Thor. So, how can Thanos walk right through a pissed off Odin's blast WITH gungnir and yet you feel like the God Blast is THAT much more that it would KO Thanos in one shot. If Odin is well beyond Thor his generic blasts would be near Thor best blasts imo.

Good discussion Rage and we both agree on who has the best tools for the job.

I gotta run out for a minute to get my haircut. I'll get back to this later.

Who would argue against thor durability and even in the rulk fight, thor wasnt even knocked out so that was pointless to even bring up.

Thor has never been one shotted, I cant even remember him falling from a explosion.

But it is one thing that I agree with, Supes/Surfer piercing damage soak>Thor

Thor blunt force durability>>almost anyone brought up in this thread besides thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
Who would argue against thor durability and even in the rulk fight, thor wasnt even knocked out so that was pointless to even bring up.

Thor has never been one shotted, I cant even remember him falling from a explosion.

But it is one thing that I agree with, Supes/Surfer piercing damage soak>Thor

Thor blunt force durability>>almost anyone brought up in this thread besides thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
1. I do agree with how powerful she was with all she absorbed. All of the Dark Gods plus Odin would make one powerful person indeed. I will concede that Thor penetrating that "shielding" or whatever that was around her is impressive and does speak to the God blasts power. However, I never really questioned its power to begin with. What I will say and what I think needs to be possibly factored in is this.... I think it's logical to assume she had pretty good durability to beat all she did. That is fine. However, I would also point out that ones power output could be that much better than the people she faced, not that her durability is superior. If she fires and said person can't take it.. that doesn't really prove nor show she had great durability. One could assume that when she got Odin's power her durability increased. However, that is just an assumption as we don't know what exactly happens when she absorb his power. She could've gotten in increase in some areas and not others. Who is to say it increased her durability. Point is, yes that is possible that it did, but we just don't know what levels she was it and what exactly was increased by the absorption in question. Along with we don't know about her durablity as he offensive output could've been the key factor in her victories not her durablity. However, its also possible what your saying as well.

I highly doubt she can take on someone like Odin and Asgard and not have ridiculous durability. I think my opinion is a hell of a lot more likely but that’s just me.

She had the power of a Skyfather, the power of all the Dark Gods (That includes being like Perrikus who can take on beings like the Destroyer and Hercules at the same time, and cut Mjolnir in half.), and Odin’s power (The Odin Force can be used to increase one’s durability ridiculously. That is a fact and at times has shown to do so automatically when one starts to employ the Odin Force.), which manifested as a force field and energy around her. She even bragged that he cannot harm her, and he still one shots her, penetrating through it as if it was air. That makes the feat ridiculously impressive.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
2. Whether you like it or not it was later stated he was hungry. I also think that it's consistent with him fighting Ego who does job but is also no joke. So, I think it's perfectly reasonable that he was hungry and weak and it was stated as so, even if later.

It was a bullshit retcon. Why would it be consistent at all? The issue before, they spend entire pages, talking about how Galactus devastated the Galaxy, ravaging planets. That was the whole reason Thor engaged him. The dude didn’t know shit. He didn’t even bother reading both issues. Lulz. Why would he be weak? He was winning and was even bragging about his incredible power was he not?

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
3. Really? If he doesn't get weaker then I stand corrected. However, I could've sworn that he did. It seems kinda odd he could use so much of his Godly essence into one blast and it not weaken him at all. Meh

He doesn’t get weaker.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
4. I agree with you, Thor has the best chance to get the job done imo. Of course, I don't feel he would but out of these 4 he does. Actually, out of any herald level person, Thor has the tools fighting at full potential to give Thanos the most trouble.

Fair enough. 👆

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
5. Yes that is what I'm referring to. However, this was no generic blast. He states he was going to kill Thanos i.e. he was out for the kill. The key though.. He said he's NEVER had to work so hard to break a mere shield. He worked so hard in fact that he depleted vital energies and had to leave to go feed. So, we have a well fed galactus stating what he did, seems very clear this was no generic blast by any means. Thus, imo that blast was more than any Thor God blast. Of course we have no way to measure such things, but we have one character vastly more powerful than another. That to me at least, speaks towards logically that being the more powerful blast.

That’s obviously an exaggeration on Galactus’ part or his been holding out on us. Was Stalin writing this issue? What about say, when he attempted to pierce the barrier of Beyonder and was sent flying down and knocked out? Did he try harder here against Thanos than piercing Beyonder’s Force Field? What issue was this? I want to read this again before I comment anymore just to be sure I don’t forget anything.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Also, even Thor's God blast didn't effect Galactus the way Thanos's did. Thor's was from behind and didn't send him flying the way Thanos did. By the way Thanos didn't cheap shot Galactus they were looking at each other talking. Just pointing out the punch that Thanos can deliver using a common foe and Thor's most powerful attack.

That’s bull. Since when do we judge the severity of an attack by how far an opponent is sent flying when surprised? A weakened Thor sent Juggernaut flying with a punch. Yet he did no damage.

Thor’s God Blast affected Galactus a hell of a “lot” more than Thanos’ attack did. No one can possibly argue that. Thanos blasted him away unexpectedly, and sends him flying. Thanos himself says he did nothing more than simply piss him off did he not? His attack did no damage at all, besides removing his helmet. Thor’s attack on the other hand, was causing Galactus fatal pain. He actually had to retreat for his very life or he would have died. How can you possibly say Thanos’ instance is more impressive?

Thor blasted him directly from Ego’s surface, whom Galactus was facing. The attack was just too sudden, and powerful for Galactus to do anything about it.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
6. The Omega blast again.. there was no way to say how powerful it was. What we do know is that Omega was stated to be twice as powerful as Galactus. Granted, that is just a statement but the fact remains the writer was clearly trying to portray him as a serious threat and on a certain level whether we like it or not. He was firing a continuous blast at thanos that lasted a decent period of time. He was pissed and out to kill Thanos as he had just teleported his intended target away. So Thanos then got the brunt of that anger and blast. His shields help up even though it was taxing them. Again, we have to look at someone considerably more powerful than Thor out to kill Thanos. No matter how much of his Godly essence Thor puts into his blast he's not even close to the level of these two. Thus to me at least, that speaks to Thanos shields certainly being able to take a God blast and probably multiple ones.

Again though, this is discrediting Thor's attack in the least. It's damn powerful and if thanos didn't have his shields.. while I don't think it would KO him it would certainly hurt him. Point is, it's very powerful and has been shown as such.

A good deal of time? Didn’t he fire a single onslaught attack at Thanos (He only fired at him once as I recall.), which Thanos survived and Thanos himself said the only reason he survived was because of multiple personal force fields “and” his armor. If the battle had continued apparently he would have not lasted a single minute. I haven’t read in years, so that’s as far as I recall.

I agree, that based on these showings depending on the level of the God Blast he can tank it. If it’s the one that shot Juggernaut? His shields tank it (He can tank it himself though it would probably hurt him.). The one that he shot at Galactus? Depending on how many force fields he has he can probably tank it, but if it hits him directly? His done for, if Galactus himself was about to die after only a few seconds under the power of the God Blast. He’d also be put down if his directly hit with the one that hit Majestron.

In regards to the Celestial God Blast, neither he nor his shields can tank it from what I know. The hammer can easily and instantly absorb enough power to destroy a Galaxy. Thor doubled its fortifications, and it was still destroyed immediately. That means the God Blast was packing at least more energy than it took to destroy Galaxies.

You are more familiar than me with Thanos. Have his Force Fields ever been shown tanking such level of power? I never recall reading, or hearing such an instance but I might be forgetting of one. If not then, Thanos, force fields or not goes down to that level of power. I do not recall instance where even Galactus unleashed enough energy to destroy Galaxies. He did it in his fight with Tyrant, but that was a result of millennia of battle, where they laid waste to galaxies, so it would not be the same, as far as I recall.

But like I said, you are more versed than me in terms of Thanos.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
7. I'm unclear how you can say Odin was not trying to kill thanos when on panel he says and implies that very thing. You can't say ooo well he asked him to yield so he wasn't out for the kill and ignore the fact that he said that very thing. His son was trapped... is asgardian army had just been pwned as well as asgard basically being invaded... thanos was mocking him... and he pulls out gungnir and basically says this will finish of Thanos. The whole story and chain of events certainly points to odin being out for the kill and pissed. Was he going all out no I don't think so in the least. However, it's undisputable he was pissed and out for the kill in my opinion as he says that very thing. Even if you don't like the out for the kill used multiple times you would have to concede he was certainly pissed and wanting to put him down. To build on that.. we know Odin is beyond Thor and packs more of a punch than Thor. So, how can Thanos walk right through a pissed off Odin's blast WITH gungnir and yet you feel like the God Blast is THAT much more that it would KO Thanos in one shot. If Odin is well beyond Thor his generic blasts would be near Thor best blasts imo.

I just re-read their fight. The closest thing to what you said is when Odin said his doom is assured. Thanos surprised him with his durability/force fields and power. Unfortunately Odin asks him to yield when Thanos was down. If he wanted to kill him, he would have killed them right then and there. The simple fact that he only temporarily put down Drax and Silver Surfer, both invaders as well and not killed them also points to the fact that Odin does not want to kill any of them. Obviously he was pissed and wanted to put Thanos down, that is undeniable, hence why he was surprised that Thanos was still standing (But Thanos with his Force Fields and natural durability can tank a hell of a lot more than Norrin or Drax can.), but Odin kills as a last result. It’s one of his many rules. He only kills when there is no other choice.

Invading Asgard and endangering his son would seem like good motivations to kill except apparently this isn’t enough for Odin to kill. Not even close. The Absorbing Man and Loki went on a rampage, after taking on Thor and were tossing out Asgardians left and right. Absorbing Man even goes to take on Odin, and holds his own, stalemating him. It seems like Odin’s in shit; until we find out he wasn’t trying at all, and could have ended it whenever he wanted. It’s actually a lot like the Thanos incident mind you.

I’d like to point out that Gungnir like his scepter is worthless without Odin. He simply uses it for better control. Like Thor with Mjolnir. For example without it, with a lightning bolt he could kill an opponent, yet with it he would have enough to control to only stun the opponent.

Because Odin is capable of a hell lot more fire power when needed to. A God Blast is superior to generic blasts from Odin. Shit the fact that a God Blast penetrated Majestron’s energy and one shotted her indicates her powerful it is. In general Odin is far beyond Thor, but the God Blast, which is probably his strongest attack, would be significantly dangerous or even lethal to beings even on Odin’s level or beyond. It’s the power of his attack. The Dark Gods incident, the Galactus incident, all proofs that.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Good discussion Rage and we both agree on who has the best tools for the job.

Cool. It has been an interesting discussion.

Originally posted by Spire

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Spoiler:
Was this not right after Thor and Loki were sent into a special land/world by Odin for a contest where even gods can die and are susceptible to injuries etc. He had to through the entire world and meet all the challenges without the benefit of the Norn stones unlike. He even caught up and by the end of it, he was so weak, that he couldn't even hold on to a levitating Loki as I recall. It wasn't this alone that knocked him out, I assumed, but the damage built up I assumed.

As later on without the circumstances, he takes an exploding rocket shell at point blank range unharmed, which knocks out the Demon cold(Who can shrug off mortar shells etc.), he takes heavy cannons etc. unharmed as well.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Spoiler:
Was this not right after Thor and Loki were sent into a special land/world by Odin for a contest where even gods can die and are susceptible to injuries etc. He had to through the entire world and meet all the challenges without the benefit of the Norn stones unlike. He even caught up and by the end of it, he was so weak, that he couldn't even hold on to a levitating Loki as I recall. It wasn't this alone that knocked him out, I assumed, but the damage built up I assumed.

As later on without the circumstances, he takes an exploding rocket shell at point blank range unharmed, which knocks out the Demon cold(Who can shrug off mortar shells etc.), he takes heavy cannons etc. unharmed as well.

Spoiler:

Eh... not really.

It was several pages later after Thor beat up Loki. They headed back to Odin's chamber, he got his hammer back went to earth, hammer dragged around, met up with Balder, went off for the stones...

He didn't look tired, and I didn't read anything saying so.

Originally posted by Spire

Spoiler:

Eh... not really.

It was several pages later after Thor beat up Loki. They headed back to Odin's chamber, he got his hammer back went to earth, hammer dragged around, met up with Balder, went off for the stones...

He didn't look tired, and I didn't read anything saying so.

Spoiler:
You missed the part, in Skornheim a special place where Gods are susceptible to death etc., and in the very end, where it says Thor is exhausted to the point where he can't even grip Loki? Loki even says he senses the fatigue of Thor because it's so great and comments on it.

They both run into the barrier to Asgard, and fight. Thor downs Loki. They are interrupted and the narration says then moments later they are in Odin's chamber, where Odin immediately sends Thor to Earth, who immediately encounters the Executioner and Ehanctress and fights them.

Thor then spends about 2 panels talking to Balder, and Thor then immediately encounters the soldiers and gets put down temporarily. This happened in the span of what, 4 pages? And he almost never had a moments rest. The weapon didn't even do any damage to him visibly, just put him down from the impact, which would make sense as moments earlier he was exhausted. Issues later he withstands far worse unharmed again.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus

Spoiler:
You missed the part, in Skornheim a special place where Gods are susceptible to death etc., and in the very end, where it says Thor is exhausted to the point where he can't even grip Loki? Loki even says he senses the fatigue of Thor because it's so great and comments on it.

They both run into the barrier to Asgard, and fight. Thor downs Loki. They are interrupted and the narration says then moments later they are in Odin's chamber, where Odin immediately sends Thor to Earth, who immediately encounters the Executioner and Ehanctress and fights them.

Thor then spends about 2 panels talking to Balder, and Thor then immediately encounters the soldiers and gets put down temporarily. This happened in the span of what, 4 pages? And he almost never had a moments rest. The weapon didn't even do any damage to him visibly, just put him down from the impact, which would make sense as moments earlier he was exhausted. Issues later he withstands far worse unharmed again.

facepalm

Which was last issue, when he got tired from... running around trying to survive without his hammer.

In this issue did Thor look tired?

Is there any mention of his stamina?

Did he get Mjolnir back?

Was he hammer dragging around and doing other stuff?

Basically you're just speculating.

Originally posted by Spire
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Which was last issue, when he got tired from... running around trying to survive without his hammer.

In this issue did Thor look tired?

Is there any mention of his stamina?

Did he get Mjolnir back?

Was he hammer dragging around and doing other stuff?

Basically you're just speculating.

Is your ability to put two and two together so challenged? Man, I didn't actually think I would have to explain this to you.

Did you figure out all by yourself, that moments passed between the time Konvict punched Superman in the face, and when he stirred back up next issue?

It happened last issue, the mention of him being exhausted, and to us it would have been months at a time but clearly in the comics it was meant to signify that only seconds passed. At most. What do you find difficult to comprehend?

We see Thor grab Loki and fail because he was completely exhausted. We see them ran at the barrier that would transport them into Asgard with Loki taking the lead. Next issue, we see them coming right out of the barrier and the narrator states that Loki enters seconds after Thor. They fight, they get interrupted, narrator says moments later..... (insert my last post to continue the series of events.).

What exactly do you find difficult here to understand? Was it somehow stated that Thor was given time to heal? No, only moments passed in the time line of the comic book between when Loki said Thor was exhausted and Thor was transported to Earth.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Is your ability to put two and two together so challenged? Man, I didn't actually think I would have to explain this to you.

Did you figure out all by yourself, that moments passed between the time Konvict punched Superman in the face, and when he stirred back up next issue?

It happened last issue, the mention of him being exhausted, and to us it would have been months at a time but clearly in the comics it was meant to signify that only seconds passed. At most. What do you find difficult to comprehend?

We see Thor grab Loki and fail because he was completely exhausted. We see them ran at the barrier that would transport them into Asgard with Loki taking the lead. Next issue, we see them coming right out of the barrier and the narrator states that Loki enters seconds after Thor. They fight, they get interrupted, narrator says moments later..... (insert my last post to continue the series of events.).

What exactly do you find difficult here to understand? Was it somehow stated that Thor was given time to heal? No, only moments passed in the time line of the comic book between when Loki said Thor was exhausted and Thor was transported to Earth.

First, don't start with me.

Funny how you need to spin things, and further, bring up Konvict in an attempt to rationalize your lol. He was KO by a mortar.

There is no evidence to show that he was weakened/tired outside of saying that he has crappy stamina AND crappy stamina regain. If you want to say that go for it. 👆

He was tired when fighting Loki.

Done.

Then the story moved on. Now, for my questions.

In this issue did Thor look tired?

Is there any mention of his stamina?

Did he get Mjolnir back?

Was he hammer dragging around and doing other stuff?

Basically you're just speculating.

Originally posted by Spire
First, don't start with me.

Funny how you need to spin things, and further, bring up Konvict in an attempt to rationalize your lol. He was KO by a mortar.

There is no evidence to show that he was weakened/tired outside of saying that he has crappy stamina AND crappy stamina regain. If you want to say that go for it. 👆

He was tired when fighting Loki.

Done.

Then the story moved on. Now, for my questions.

In this issue did Thor look tired?

Is there any mention of his stamina?

Did he get Mjolnir back?

Was he hammer dragging around and doing other stuff?

Basically you're just speculating.

Why are people so damn dense? Do I have to scan the damn thing?

I'm not spinning anything.

Holy shit, you are stupid. The Konvict incident, was meant to show you how the passage of time works. Just because it's the last panel of issue #12 and the first panel of #13, it does not mean, a large amount of time transitioned between the instances. Seconds could have passed or years. Time is relative. I could have just as easily picked the instance when Flash saved half a million Koreans from a Nuclear Explosion. Don't focus on Superman being down.

Yes he was knocked out by a mortar. I've brought this up in the past myself. It's one of Thor's bad showings, up there with the Gas Station, but nearly as bad as some people try to make it without context.

*Sigh*

One more time. I'll explain it one more time, and 'll try and make it clear.

If you had the first issue of the Trial of the Gods, you would have known that Odin sent them to a special location, Skornheim, where even Gods can die, and are vulnerable to shit such as extreme heat, and pointy thorns (It's as if everything is magnified there, so the dangers they would face would be something a mortal would face in a normal environment.).

End of the issue, it's stated, that Thor was extremely exhausted. His literally crawling on the ground. Thor is so exhausted, so tired, and so wrought with fatigue, that he can't even hold on to Loki who is just levitating, and Loki even senses his fatigue. Thor runs after Loki who enters the barrier and is transported to Asgard.

Beginning of next issue, you see Thor arrive seconds, after Loki in Asgard. Moments later after Thor beats down Loki (Without any rest.), they are in Odin's court, and he is immediately sent down to Earth. First thing he encounters is a fight with the Enchantress etc. Immediately after that, he goes to Asia and gets put down.

The mortar did not even pierce his skin. The impact must have put him down. Which wouldn't make sense, because later he shrugs off much more powerful artillery. What conclusion can we come from this? A) The damage of the mortar was simply the final blow that simply put Thor down or B) Thor has dynamic durability.

Not explaining this again.

If you cannot understand this now, then no offense, and I am not trying to demean you, but you would undoubtedly be one of the stupidest people I've ever had the displeasure to address. And yes, I'm including Bruce in that assessment. 🙂

I ain't discussion this further.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Escape rant.

Concession excepted.

Trolling and providing zero evidence to back up speculation generally leads to rants like that.

3rd time:

In this issue did Thor look tired?

Is there any mention of his stamina?

Did he get Mjolnir back?

Was he hammer dragging around and doing other stuff?

Basically you're just speculating.