Originally posted by srankmissingnin
Yes it is... you can see that it is... in the panel where he is lifting it... his the elbow on the arm holding it extends above the height of the rock.
In the scan, it appears to be almost exactly the length of bane's forearm.
However, in lifting it Bane is tilting it up, thus tilting the top out of view from that angle. This considered, the boulder is seemingly taller than Bane's forearm is long.
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
In the scan, it appears to be almost exactly the length of bane's forearm.However, in lifting it Bane is tilting it up, thus tilting the top out of view from that angle. This considered, the boulder is seemingly taller than Bane's forearm is long.
I was taking that into account. The part of the rock that appears to be "exactly the length of bane's forearm." is closer to the foreground than Bane's arm is, because the rock is spherical in shape. The same section of the rock, on the same plane as Bane's arm, is barely above his wrist. And keep in mind that there is foreshortening used on Bane's arm as well as the rock as it to is retreating into the back ground as you get closer to the elbow.
Originally posted by red sabre
judging by what? do you realise a peak human is someone who is as strong as a human being can possibly be?
Red, I think I see your confusion here. The expression "Comic Book Peak Human" ("peak human" or "CBPH" for short) is not intended to be a literal, biological fact. It is instead used as tier in our informal, comparative classification system--symbolically, a general range of what comic book humans can often achieve through training alone.
The keyword there is RANGE. Not every peak human is the physical equivalent of every other, but you'd expect them to be close. Many characters fall into this range in at least a few respects. Many humans have exceeded the peak-human range in limited respects without a superhuman explanation (ex: Cass Cain's speed; Pre-Crisis Karate Kid's everything)
Traditionally, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers have been held up as the paragons of the peak human concept (though, upon closer review, Steve is physically a step higher in most respects). It is logical, therefore, that anyone far stronger than Batman could be considered to have some degree of superhuman strength. This is only a matter of classification and is not determined by the plot.
Originally posted by Dream StuffIf i knew how to articulate my post would be similar to this 👆.
Red, I think I see your confusion here. The expression "Comic Book Peak Human" ("peak human" or "CBPH" for short) is not intended to be a literal, biological fact. It is instead used as tier in our informal, comparative classification system--symbolically, a general range of what comic book humans can often achieve through training alone.The keyword there is RANGE. Not every peak human is the physical equivalent of every other, but you'd expect them to be close. Many characters fall into this range in at least a few respects. Many humans have exceeded the peak-human range in limited respects without a superhuman explanation (ex: Cass Cain's speed; Pre-Crisis Karate Kid's everything)
Traditionally, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers have been held up as the paragons of the peak human concept (though, upon closer review, Steve is physically a step higher in most respects). It is logical, therefore, that anyone far stronger than Batman could be considered to have some degree of superhuman strength. This is only a matter of classification and is not determined by the plot.
Originally posted by iceman24567
Nice you still twisting what i wrote to troll your logic is laughable. Peak human is the best a human can be i never said Kingpin is peak human i said his strength was which has been proven time and time again. Do you really think Olympic level weight lifters can do what Kingpin does? Are you that stupid. Don't bother answering actually 😬. This back in forth is just us insulting eachother I'm done
you are avoiding every single thing i demanded you to prove, i basically spanked your ass
i want you to show me the definition of peak human, what are the human limits? if so many streets as you claim can do all those things than its already not the best a human can do because too many people from all kind of strength levels are able to perform such thing, and what are your messurments? real life? comics book? be specific what gives you the tools to determine who is a peak human and who is a super human , riddle me this come on what makes kingpin a peak human? by what stardards?
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
Red, I think I see your confusion here. The expression "Comic Book Peak Human" ("peak human" or "CBPH" for short) is not intended to be a literal, biological fact. It is instead used as tier in our informal, comparative classification system--symbolically, a general range of what comic book humans can often achieve through training alone.The keyword there is RANGE. Not every peak human is the physical equivalent of every other, but you'd expect them to be close. Many characters fall into this range in at least a few respects. Many humans have exceeded the peak-human range in limited respects without a superhuman explanation (ex: Cass Cain's speed; Pre-Crisis Karate Kid's everything)
Traditionally, Bruce Wayne and Steve Rogers have been held up as the paragons of the peak human concept (though, upon closer review, Steve is physically a step higher in most respects). It is logical, therefore, that anyone far stronger than Batman could be considered to have some degree of superhuman strength. This is only a matter of classification and is not determined by the plot.
i see your point , but if we judge by comics standards as you stated then what are the human limits in comics? and what is the peak a human can achieve?
do you consider Cap to be a peak human as you stated even with him having feats such as being able to support tons of weight? and if so then when the hell is the super human category begins? would you call beast a super human by strength even with the fact Cap stomps him in the strength feats department?
Originally posted by Dream Stuff
I'd say lifting that thing one handed with ease put him well above class 5 at least. If you extrapolate what he should be able to do with both arms and serious effort, class 10 is not unreasonable. However, I'd want to see some consistent corroborating feats before I accept that.
only thing is bane didnt lift it with 1 arm he used both arms to lift it up