Pain vs the 5 Kages

Originally posted by NemeBro
True, but here is the thing, jounin in Naruto, are not really durable. Even Kakashi, who is Kage level, can be killed by small amounts of damage, Naruto characters are kind of glass cannons. Asura and Hell Path in particular are not durable at all. Also, you seem to be misunderstanding, I am saying he can one-shot any of Pain's bodies, not all of them in one attack, sorry if that was not clear.

Three noob Sannin. 😛 I am not saying the Raikage could defeat all the bodies by himself, that is what the other Kage are for.

Ye-I mean um no. 😐

Well it wasn't clear you nublett! Hmm.. Personally i think if pains mission was to kill them all no exceptions, he could just create the dark hole thingy off the bat. He wins game over.

Or he could separate them. You know, divide and conquer.

But in a straight up fight.... Well i see it like this

5 kage level ninja + 10 jounins

v

5 above jounin ninja
1 kage level (Deva path imo)

Thus kinda one sided no matter how well they work together.

Oh! Oh!! I see through teh lies of the Jedi!

Stfu.

Unless pein uses large shinra tensei or chibaku tensei in the beginning of the fight he loses.

Ii was thinking would the sand protect garra from the tensei techniques?

Now that we have seen danzo do you really think pein can win

Not really, he was mediocre at best. He has good defense but not much offense outside of wind-bullets.

Hm, I suppose Shisui's eye probably wouldn't have been too great against Pain.

For offense he has his wind, plus also his summon looked like the strongest summon we've seen. He also had wood jutsu, but had to be careful with it.

But overall, he wouldn't have changed the equation too much. I don't put him above the other Kage. As long as Pain doesn't use his huge uber techniques, the other 4 can win, and if he does get a chance to use them, Danzo won't turn the tide. Resurrection Pain means that his time limit can simply be worn down.

Originally posted by yungz22

Ii was thinking would the sand protect garra from the tensei techniques?

Naruto did use a whole buncha clones to partially resist being blown away by a small one, so getting a lot of stuff in your way can help.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Not really, he was mediocre at best. He has good defense but not much offense outside of wind-bullets.

He does not simply have good defense. He has the cheapest defensive move in the series, the ability to actually escape death, and he could do it like fifteen times.

Oh yeah, and he can perform chakra seals with a touch.

He fought against a Sasuke with nearly full control over his Mangekyo, that is no joke.

He was "mediocre" among the kages. He wasn't bad but he wasn't exactly any more impressive than the other 4 either (sort of... he's probably above Gaara by quite a bit).

I just don't think that he will tilt this fight any. And Shisui's eye I doubt would be very effective on Pein's multiple bodies.

i dont see danzou being anywhere near garra TBH... only thing that can really save him is genjutsu.

Pain would lose if he didn't use Chibaku Tensei from the start. Or Mega Shinra Tensei at least. Even then, because Danzo suddenly became ridiculously over powered, he'd have to kill Danzo still, which wouldn't take that long but still. And he wouldn't use either attack from the beginning of the fight given his character, unless a kage pissed him off. What it comes down to is 6 bodies who all vary in strength versus a Hulk Hogan with lightning, a girl who spits stuff, a old man who is awesome despite being old (original huh?), a kid who can control sand, and a guy who can't be killed for 10 to 11 minutes. Pein loses.

what if garrra made it so the sand would reinforce the kage's footing si whn pein did a tensei they wouldnt be affected as much also the sand defense can take a beating since it did with stan raikages kick.... also what pein has to worry bout is danzo's substitution jutsu he would never use an attack like the super tensei or chibaku tensei unles he is dead because of god realms need to recharge......im sorry pin isnt beating all 5 of the kages at once

Originally posted by NemeBro

He does not simply have good defense. He has the cheapest defensive move in the series, the ability to actually escape death, and he could do it like fifteen times.

Or rather, for a certain amount of time. Though it does have the problem that it permanently uses up eyes so he can't use them lightly in the least, so while it's hax, it's also not as casually used as the sand barrier.

The eye of Shisui seemed to be his best trick but has way too long a recharge time. He seemed to count on it to be able to handle even a tough foe, so it's enchantment must be very hard to break.

Of the other kage, I could see him beating some (Tsukikage due to his age probably, for example, and his wind and suction summon seem like it'd be good against Gaara), but I do think the stronger ones could take him.

Originally posted by yungz22
what if garrra made it so the sand would reinforce the kage's footing si whn pein did a tensei they wouldnt be affected as much also the sand defense can take a beating since it did with stan raikages kick.... also what pein has to worry bout is danzo's substitution jutsu he would never use an attack like the super tensei or chibaku tensei unles he is dead because of god realms need to recharge......im sorry pin isnt beating all 5 of the kages at once

Originally posted by King Kandy
He doesn't need to recharge after Chibaku, he used more shinra tensei against naruto right after Naruto escaped the chibaku.

So then this fight is the Six Paths of Pein vs Danzo alone. I'm not really worried there.

Originally posted by King Kandy
So then this fight is the Six Paths of Pein vs Danzo alone. I'm not really worried there.

ok first of all you have to think for a second this is all the kages we are talking about here....the rest of the bodies other than god realm will be killed easily all you have to worry about is god realm...we wont expect him to be using that big tensei because of the recharge time. chibaku is the only tech that can take the other kages out. and danzo can dodge chibaku about 15 times plus he has mokuton and those wind techniques and that huge summon. all he has to do is make pein a regular tensei and he will win. pein is gonna lose whether you refuse to believe it or not.

If Pein uses Chibaku from the beginning, it doesn't matter if Danzo survives with Izanagi, he will have all six bodies to contend with.

I do wonder if Danzo's offense would get through to Deva, and also if the chakra-disruption properties of his blades would help mess him up.

What if we replaced Danzo with Tsunade? When Pain went to talk to her, he noticed she was spending chakra to counter a Shinra Tensei, and we know that she could protect the others from a mega Shinra Tensei just like she did with the village (probably better, it's a heck of a lot easier to protect 5 than a few thousand, assuming there were civies there). She might even be strong enough to break free of a small Chibaku.

If we replace Danzo with Tsunade, then all five die in an opening chibaku.