Pain vs the 5 Kages

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
If Pain is somehow able to manoeuvre Danzou into Preta Path's grip, Danzou's done.

Assuming A charges off to fight Pain alone like he did against Sasuke, he and his lackeys get taken out quickly, while Nagato uses Naraka to revive the fallen bodies. I doubt Gaara would leave the actual room (not unless all the Kages do so), so Pain would have to go there. In which case, yeah, he most likely loses in the end.

Anyway, why couldn't Nagato just have Deva use Chibaku Tensei from far outside the building anyway? The stips state that he's attacking the summit, so it's not like it has to be an actual fight.
Onoki would be able to neutralize it, but I doubt they'd realize what is happening until it is too late.

Or he could try to summon Gedo Mazo

I personally think Izanagi could get him out of it. But that is just me.

I dunno how quickly they get taken out, but without info, yeah they'll die. But they might take a few out if nothing else. Might even get lucky and get Naraka. Though that is a stretch. And yeah, if Pain goes to the Kage room he is pretty much done for. Gaara holds 'em in place while Mei burns 'em up. Or Onoki nukes 'em.

Well because Chibaku Tensei seems like a powerful bit of chakra and the Kage's servants could probably sense it from a distance before the attack starts doing damage. In which case, yeah Onoki would handle it.

Well if he did that he could likely win. If only because that thing is monstrously huge. Then again, I don't know how easily he could summon it. If he can at all now.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
I personally think Izanagi could get him out of it. But that is just me.

I dunno how quickly they get taken out, but without info, yeah they'll die. But they might take a few out if nothing else. Might even get lucky and get Naraka. Though that is a stretch. And yeah, if Pain goes to the Kage room he is pretty much done for. Gaara holds 'em in place while Mei burns 'em up. Or Onoki nukes 'em.

Well because Chibaku Tensei seems like a powerful bit of chakra and the Kage's servants could probably sense it from a distance before the attack starts doing damage. In which case, yeah Onoki would handle it.

Well if he did that he could likely win. If only because that thing is monstrously huge. Then again, I don't know how easily he could summon it. If he can at all now.

I don't, at least not for something like a grab and chakra drain.
Plus Preta's got a pretty good rate of chakra absorption, being able to absorb Naruto's Sage chakra in moments.

Gaara could hold all except Preta and Deva in place, I think. Preta because he could absorb the chakra powering the sand, and Deva because he could just blow it all away. In addition, I think one of Animal Path's huge-ass summons (like the Rhino or the Bull) could destroy the room, forcing the Kage to leave it.

Dunno if they would be fast enough. I mean, if Deva throws that magnetic sphere above the building, it would start taking effect near-immediately.

Also, another tactic for the Kages would be having Onoki touch them all, giving every single one of them flying abilities. awesome That'd be pretty kewl IMO. A flying around would be lulzy.

Not only is it huge, but it's also freaking fast, freaking strong, and it has got AoE attacks that could nuke the place. I think he could summon it. Unless it's only Nagato that can summon the thing, and not one of the Paths.

Umm point is still there that the kages are still more powerful by far then naruto when he DID beat the pain bodies and therefore so can the kages and raikage CAN blitz them considering he is like the 3rd fastest person in the manga so far.

Only one got blitzed.

One was taken out via Rasenshuriken.
Two were taken out via deception, Toad help, and Rasengan.
The 5th was taken out by absorbing too much of Naruto's Sage Chakra.

So while the Kages as a whole are much more powerful than Sage Mode Naruto with help from the Toads, A by himself most certainly isn't. He's never going to be able to take on all 6 bodies by himself. One Shinra Tensei, and A's taking a flight back to Kumogakure.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Only one got blitzed.

One was taken out via Rasenshuriken.
Two were taken out via deception, Toad help, and Rasengan.
The 5th was taken out by absorbing too much of Naruto's Sage Chakra.

So while the Kages as a whole are much more powerful than Sage Mode Naruto with help from the Toads, A by himself most certainly isn't. He's never going to be able to take on all 6 bodies by himself. One Shinra Tensei, and A's taking a flight back to Kumogakure.

the point of my post was that A could blitz pain not all of them but at full speed he could be a few of them

Originally posted by yungz22
wahat does that have to do with anything the paths still lose this fight

The notion that A by himself is more than a match for Pain, as he can apparently blitz all of them.

lrn2read.

Originally posted by ImANoob
the point of my post was that A could blitz pain not all of them but at full speed he could be a few of them

Two at best if he's with his lackeys or by himself. He then gets Shinra Tensei'd back to Kumo.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The notion that A by himself is more than a match for Pain, as he can apparently blitz all of them.

lrn2read.

Two at best if he's with his lackeys or by himself. He then gets Shinra Tensei'd back to Kumo.

i must read this thread to see how it has gone this far...

Originally posted by yungz22
what im saying is why is that the main focus in you guys argument. Fact is A isnt by himself. I do agree tho that he can take out at least 2 bodies on his own. That being said there are 4 other kage there helping him each with immensly effective jutsu... Pain loses

Because Imanoob I think it was, stated at first that if Naruto could beat Pain, A should be able to do so as well.

Assuming all 5 Kages jump him together. Even Danzou, Mei, Onoki and Gaara could take out Pain IMO.
The TC did not specify the stips, instead stating that Pain attacks the Kage Summit instead of Sasuke. In which case, he could just Chibaku Tensei the area from outside of the whole building, or summon Gedo Mazo.

Hm, I wonder if Onoki could Dust-destroy the Chibaku Tensei orb.

If he really could destroy that island, then it should be no problem for him. But we've never seen him do it, so its speculation.

Originally posted by Q99
Hm, I wonder if Onoki could Dust-destroy the Chibaku Tensei orb.

The orb itself? Easily. But I doubt his flying speed is fast enough to escape from the pull of the orb.
Assuming Pain uses Chibaku Tensei when he's outside the building, I doubt Onoki could stop it in time.

Originally posted by King Kandy
If he really could destroy that island, then it should be no problem for him. But we've never seen him do it, so its speculation.

I think it's just hyperbole. The size of his tech does not seem to approach that of the Island Turtle's, so I doubt he could bust it. But he could still easily kill it. A hole in the creature's body near a vital organ will do that.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
The orb itself? Easily. But I doubt his flying speed is fast enough to escape from the pull of the orb.
Assuming Pain uses Chibaku Tensei when he's outside the building, I doubt Onoki could stop it in time.

Chakra sensors say hi and also say they sense something in the sky. :3

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Chakra sensors say hi and also say they sense something in the sky. :3

So basically, you think that the chakra sensors will sense a mass of chakra in the sky, alert the Kages, who wonder what it is, while Onoki initially ponders what he should do due to his back problem & hard-headedness, eventually deciding that he should deal with that mass of chakra, thus flying outside and using a Dust tech to destroy the orb, all before the orb's gravitation pull takes effect and seals them into a mass of earth they cannot escape?

Damn. dur-rage

Considering they're likely to sense the ground beneath them shaking around the time the chakra sensors sense something, they'll know something is up, and thus Onoki can deal accordingly.

Shaking? No no, it sucked up a considerable size of the land in a few seconds, while it was high up in the clouds. By the time Onoki decides to go outside to deal with it, they'll be on their way to being trapped.
And we've seen that the size of Onoki's techs aren't as big as we'd imagined.

You think the ground getting large chunks torn out of it wouldn't shake?

And darn, you're right. If only there was a way there could be more Onoki's! 😖hifty:

It would shake, just not where the Kages are, because they'll be in the air quickly, assuming the orb is directly above them.

Well, only one Onoki has dust techs. 😛

Proof? :3