Originally posted by Juk3nLol that was a myth that started on here, and got worse and worse. It's not that Spiderman isn't liked, he's super popular, he just holds back a lot even though he's capable of so much more. Though honestly they generally match him evenly with the aforementioned and have him looking like a doofus with his powerset. But on the forum... yea I can see what you mean. That was never the case before, it was pretty clear that a man with martial arts training wouldn't beat an elephant in a straight fight. Although I'm not so sure if that's as bad as them being "as fast" as him. Or worse, faster.
Spider-man. Enough is enough with this MA > Pete stuff.Infact
He needs a new canonical story arc , written by someone who loves and most of all KNOWS the powerset. in which he goes on a shit stomping rampage against every high street to street/meta he's ever been pitted against on this forum. The arc should include him whooping (in very few panels) Any Captain America, Daredevil, Black Panther, Taskmaster Ironfist, Wolverine possibly some space for him to smash someone like Elektra aswell as Mister X, Blade.
You could say the same thing about Venom "matching" Wolverine too.
Batman is overwritten, and Flash is extremely underwritten. The way I look at it is that Batman has things go in his favor while Flash generally doesn't.
KMC Flash would put heroes out of business.
Also for this thread.
Thor vs. Thanos. Thor has all the tools to beat Thanos (Absorption for infamous Shields, and attacks like the God Blast that can put him down.), if I wanted, I could make a pretty solid argument of Thor being able to beat Thanos.
Personally I don't think he would. At least in general. There's a difference between Thor with C.I.S. on, and Thor with me controlling his actions.
Hmm i dont see thor beating thanos at all. thor has only one attack that can put thanos down. an attack which he hasnt shown to be able to use repeatedly in battle. Further the attack will only put down thanos if thanos shields are down. then there is the issue of thanos also being able to absorb energy AND being able to two shot thor. Then thanos has other things like mental attacks which would be very dangerous to thor and even if they wouldnt put him down immediately (which they actually might) would definitely give him openings to ko thor with a few blasts.
Even with CIS off i dont think thors has to much hope of beating thanos.
And as for the thread, Definitely spiderman against the so called elite MAs.
Originally posted by Naija boy
Hmm i dont see thor beating thanos at all. thor has only one attack that can put thanos down. an attack which he hasnt shown to be able to use repeatedly in battle. Further the attack will only put down thanos if thanos shields are down. then there is the issue of thanos also being able to absorb energy AND being able to two shot thor. Then thanos has other things like mental attacks which would be very dangerous to thor and even if they wouldnt put him down immediately (which they actually might) would definitely give him openings to ko thor with a few blasts.Even with CIS off i dont think thors has to much hope of beating thanos.
Has Thanos shown to be able to absorb attack that packs enough energy to overload Mjolnir, with double the fortification? Mind you, Mjolnir has ridiculous absorption feats.
He can absorb Thanos's shields can he not?
When has Thanos ever two shot Thor? Even when amped with Universal destroying power, he has had trouble putting down Thor. This was of course later retconned into a clone.
And mental attacks have also been resisted by Thor.
It's inconsistent though. His resistance to telepathy or mind attacks. Some times it's high. Some times not so high. Thor has his own version of telepathy which has some rather impressive feats (Got through to Strange, despite him not knowing who it was, contacting Odin past dimensional barriers etc.).
If Thor used his abilities wisely and completely, the best thing to do would be to set up a self rotating impenetrable barrier (Meaning Thor doesn't need to power it.), absorb his shields, and let loose a God Blast.
Of course, this is what my strategy for Thor would be.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Has Thanos shown to be able to absorb attack that packs enough energy to overload Mjolnir, with double the fortification? Mind you, Mjolnir has ridiculous absorption feats.He can absorb Thanos's shields can he not?
When has Thanos ever two shot Thor? Even when amped with Universal destroying power, he has had trouble putting down Thor. This was of course later retconned into a clone.
And mental attacks have also been resisted by Thor.
It's inconsistent though. His resistance to telepathy or mind attacks. Some times it's high. Some times not so high. Thor has his own version of telepathy which has some rather impressive feats (Got through to Strange, despite him not knowing who it was, contacting Odin past dimensional barriers etc.).
If Thor used his abilities wisely and completely, the best thing to do would be to set up a self rotating impenetrable barrier (Meaning Thor doesn't need to power it.), absorb his shields, and let loose a God Blast.
Of course, this is what my strategy for Thor would be.
He doesnt need to absorb all of it. Absorb some,and use shields/body to tank the rest.
Further how many things is thor going to be doing at the same time? IF he is setting up the his own shield then he wont be using the godblast . If he absorbs thanos shields, thanos can easily put it back up in the time it takes for him to finish absorbing the shield and then use the godblast. He cant simultaneously absorb thanos shield/set up his own to guard against thanos attack/and then use the godblast.
Oh and im talking about the incident where preupgrades oneshotted thing and put down thor with 2 or three shots of his eyebeams.
And also i know that thor has resisted mental attacks before but on a more consistent basis he has shown to be susceptible to it while overcoming it eventually. Hence i took both factors into account and didnt outright claim that thanos would simply mindrape him but its pretty safe to say that he could definitely disorient him with telepathy and thus leave him open to blasts.
About ur strategy,im not sure thor can release the godblast through his barrier in the first place. Then there is the fact that thanos wont just be standing there while thor is absorbing his shields and setting up a godblast. He can counter attack with telepathy,restablish the shields,use blasts of his own etc.
Zoom should win against virtually anyone below Skyfather, without PIS/CIS/BFR.
Juggernaut >>> Skaar, obviously
Galactus >>> anyone below Death, Eternity, and Oblivion
Darkseid >>> Superman
Deadshot >>> all sharpshooters, Marvel and DC combined.
Rhino, Sandman, Venom, Mordru >>> Spider-Man
Shuma-Gorath >>> Classic Dr. Strange
Spectre >>> every single DC superhero/superheroine, even combined
Clayface >>> Batman
Originally posted by Warlord
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Mordru was/is stronger than Spider-Man.
I don't give a rat shit about that PIS moment where Spidey transformed into a monster on roids.
Originally posted by Juk3n
Spider-man. Enough is enough with this MA > Pete stuff.Infact
He needs a new canonical story arc , written by someone who loves and most of all KNOWS the powerset. in which he goes on a shit stomping rampage against every high street to street/meta he's ever been pitted against on this forum. The arc should include him whooping (in very few panels) Any Captain America, Daredevil, Black Panther, Taskmaster Ironfist, Wolverine possibly some space for him to smash someone like Elektra aswell as Mister X, Blade.
keep on dreaming.... meanwhile MA >>>> spider-man
Originally posted by Master Court
If anything, Hulk isn't written high enough. They always show him beating on top-tiers and sh*t, making him out to be a big badass, but they always add some bullsh*t plot device or make the win circumstantial to spare the other guy's reputation. They're not all equal, dammit! Hulk should stomp Thing, Colossus, Wolverine, Namor, Rhino, Abomination, Ares, and Iron Man 10/10 with a flawless victory.You can't have Hulk bloody up Thor so bad that Thor struggles to his feet, and then have Hulk getting staggered by a measly punch from Colossus. When was the last time Colossus has lifted a mountain? A weaker incarnation of Hulk did it. Hulk has taken nuclear bombs, yet the Thing is going to duke it out with Hulk?
Based on all standard Savage Hulk's high showings, he should stomp all the second raters listed above every single time they meet in combat. Except Namor. He's not a second rater. Namor is pretty cool, actually.
The WWHulk/Sentry fight was flawless. Hulk finally getting some f*cking respect from the writers.
That said, minus Silver Surfer's energy draining power, Thor is the only person I really believe has the right to consistently beat Hulk. And Juggernaut should never do more than stalemate and only because of his durability. Juggernaut has never done anything impressive enough to prove he's all that strong. Namor has fallen behind in the top-tier league. And Gladiator shouldn't be considered such a big threat. Hulk and Gladiator are both emotionally charged. But Gladiator's power only goes down, Hulk's will keep going up. Once Hulk bleeds Gladiator, it should be all over for Glads.
The only people that should ever beat Hulk are Thor, Superman, Silver Surfer, Eddie McDonough, Gladiator, Hercules, and Sentry. And, of course, cosmics like Thanos, etc.
the dumbest hulk fanboy alive 😘
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
KMC Flash would put heroes out of business.Also for this thread.
Thor vs. Thanos. Thor has all the tools to beat Thanos (Absorption for infamous Shields, and attacks like the God Blast that can put him down.), if I wanted, I could make a pretty solid argument of Thor being able to beat Thanos.
Personally I don't think he would. At least in general. There's a difference between Thor with C.I.S. on, and Thor with me controlling his actions.
DUMBEST thor fanboy alive
