Mace Windu/ Revan (redeemed) vs Exar Kun,Darth Bane Obalisks

forgot about kun actually. and i still dont know enough about nihilus to rank him.

Originally posted by mattatom
Why?

Because on the "Star Forge" his powers would be greatly enhanced; based off of KotOR anyway.

Originally posted by truejedi
forgot about kun actually. and i still dont know enough about nihilus to rank him.

Nihilus is a total beast. Forget the whole drain thing and he still was able to pull the Ravager up out of Malachor V and then hold the whole thing together. Thats freakin ridiculous. Now we have no idea how much difficulty they had, but it took the Exile, Visas Marr, and Canderous Ordo working together to take him down in a fight. He's pretty damn strong. Stonger than anything Bane has shown that I can think of.

Originally posted by Evilbigfoot
Because on the "Star Forge" his powers would be greatly enhanced; based off of KotOR anyway.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
but it took the Exile, Visas Marr, and Canderous Ordo working together to take him down in a fight.

Not unless you wanted their help. The Exile I was playing took him alone once just for the fun of it.

Originally posted by mattatom
Wouldn't Kun or Bane be as well?

Yes, however "Revan" is the one more associated with it; so I went with that. 🙂

Originally posted by truejedi
Not unless you wanted their help. The Exile I was playing took him alone once just for the fun of it.

Originally posted by Evilbigfoot
Yes, however "Revan" is the one more associated with it; so I went with that. 🙂

I just had them keep healing themselves to see if i could beat nihilus without them. It worked too.

Originally posted by truejedi
I just had them keep healing themselves to see if i could beat nihilus without them. It worked too.

That would fall under gameplay though. Canonically, it took the three of them to defeat him.

where do you get your canon information? It IS gameplay, therefore no single scenario would be canon, unless there has been an issued statement elsewhere saying it took 3 of them, working together, to bring him down.

Well unless you think that it would be realistic to assume that two of them (since you had to take three) would just be chilling and healing themselves...

we've been over this though, you can't assume. It must be stated. Gameplay, simply, isn't canon.

The three of them going to fight Nihilus isn't dependent on gameplay. Because the player doesn't control that, it is canon. It also mentioned them in The Essential Guide: Jedi vs. Sith. Completely canon.

Originally posted by truejedi
we've been over this though, you can't assume. It must be stated. Gameplay, simply, isn't canon.

Yes I can assume. I can assume that its more than reasonable to believe that all three of them took on Nihilus instead of only one person. How important the contributions of the other two were is vague, but that does not mean they did nothing.

The continued prevalence of this inane idea that we need specifics of what exactly happened is moronic.

Originally posted by Autokrat
Yes I can assume. I can assume that its more than reasonable to believe that all three of them took on Nihilus instead of only one person. How important the contributions of the other two were is vague, but that does not mean they did nothing.

The continued prevalence of this inane idea that we need specifics of what exactly happened is moronic.

We've been over this again, and again, and again.

We do need specifics of what exactly happened because the only thing that is known, is that the three of them were there and they beat Nihilus. Without this, you are merely speculating on, whether the fight went as fights normally go, or that something odd happened that made the fight go in the trio's advantage. We don't know, so it's not Canon.

@ Glentract: Can you type out what exactly The Essential Guide: Jedi vs. Sith says about the fight?

I have JvS and it wasn't clear as to who actually killed Nihilus as it lists 3 of the characters as a maybe.

So, not a lot of details in there either...

for that matter,was it required that it was THOSE three characters? Visas, Mandalore and Exile? I can't remember if i had options there or not.

Autok Assumptions of the logical ARE common sense, but they ARE'NT Canon. I will agree with you all day for instance, that Revan was PROBABLY one of the most powerful sith ever to live, but I will never tell you that I can prove it based on the probable.

Thats all I'm saying. I think you and I agree on this more than it seems sometimes. You never say anything about the KOTOR characters that I find improbable, i just find those statements unprovable.

I completely agree with TJ, common sense =/= Canon.