The monster was the height of a skyscraper, but Thing did something similar a few years back, if Thing can do it, so can Colossus. Also, just because the monster is the height of a building, doesn't mean it's the same weight, a building is tons and tons of glass, iron, etc.... The monster is skin, muscle, bones, etc....
Originally posted by The Pict
😬 Molly stopped a Skyscaper sized monster from taking a step by holding it up under it's foot! That's a huge amount of bones, flesh etc. She's as strong if not stronger than most class 100s IMO.Also when she got a caffeine rush she threw the monster like it was nothing.
However her durability and tiring after using her strengthmight let her down.
Originally posted by KingD19
Her highest feat is tossing the monster on it's ass, something Colossus could do as well. We really don't know where her level is, but it's high.
I dunno about that. The thing must have weighed thousands and thousand of tonnes. It was as big as a skyscraper. What is Colossus biggest strength feat?
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Yeah, she tipped over an unsuspecting monster while it was taking a step forward... It's not the same as stopping a good metal kick from a genuine Class 100 brick like Colossus, especially since one of his legs is probably longer than Molly is tall.
She was holding it for a while. The rest of the team were having an argument while she was underfoot. It wasn't like she ran up and tipped it and ran off.
He has a bunch, catching a 300+ ton ship while seriously injured, ripping open the gates of hell, I'll see if I can post some up.
And like I said, Thing did the same Thing, catching a monster, then throwing it backward, if Thing can do it, then so can Colossus.
And once again, like I said, just because it's big doesn't make it a couple thousand tons, Hank Pym gets a couple hundred feet tall, but he doesn't way tons.
Originally posted by KingD19
He has a bunch, catching a 300+ ton ship while seriously injured, ripping open the gates of hell, I'll see if I can post some up.And like I said, Thing did the same Thing, catching a monster, then throwing it backward, if Thing can do it, then so can Colossus.
And once again, like I said, just because it's big doesn't make it a couple thousand tons, Hank Pym gets a couple hundred feet tall, but he doesn't way tons.
Of course that's what it means. A skyscraper sized being full of muscle, bone, etc.
That usually happens to Hank actually. In Avengers: The Initiative he used his increased mass to take a Hydra mother/battleship out the sky. The things was massive, biggest object in the field. Must have weighed hundreds of thousand of tonnes but when Hank got on it the thing crashed out the sky.
According to that scan, the only reason the ship veered off course is because he rapidly increased his weight on one section, and the ship couldn't compensate for the rapid weight increase. He's heavy sure, but not hundreds of thousands of tons, neither was the monster.
Thing did the exact same feat, caught a huge monster, the monster was so big Thing looked like a speck, then he tossed it into the air and on it's ass. Colossus can do it, there's no more point in arguing.
I'm not downplaying the feat, but her highest feat is something Colossus could do as well. I would actually put pulling Cloak's cloak off higher on the feat list, since tossing the monster was a Thing level feat.
Originally posted by The Pict
She was holding it for a while. The rest of the team were having an argument while she was underfoot. It wasn't like she ran up and tipped it and ran off.
She gets punted.
Originally posted by Eternal Idol
She held it for a while, then finally toppled it when Nico gave her a boost. That's an impressive strength feat any which way you look at it, but it doesn't say a whole lot for her durability and dodging ability.She gets punted.
They were there to stop the monster, not dodge away from it. Also Molly went and stood under the Monster. The group exited the Leapfrog and Molly purposely went to the stand in it's path.
Originally posted by KingD19
According to that scan, the only reason the ship veered off course is because he rapidly increased his weight on one section, and the ship couldn't compensate for the rapid weight increase. He's heavy sure, but not hundreds of thousands of tons, neither was the monster.Thing did the exact same feat, caught a huge monster, the monster was so big Thing looked like a speck, then he tossed it into the air and on it's ass. Colossus can do it, there's no more point in arguing.
I'm not downplaying the feat, but her highest feat is something Colossus could do as well. I would actually put pulling Cloak's cloak off higher on the feat list, since tossing the monster was a Thing level feat.
You're taking a feat by Thing and attributing it to Colossus? That's a weak argument man, proves nothing.
The fact is there was a skyscraper sized monster, weighing in the 1000s of tonnes (the size of the creature proves it, muscle, bone, fat, gallons and gallons of fluid are all heavy substances) and Molly stopped it's movement under her own power and toppled it when she got the caffeine rush (more awake)
If Colossus doesn't have a strength feat to match you can't use someone else's. The fact that Colossus and Thing are both 100+ level characters doesn't mean they are equal in strength. You don't have proof that Colossus could do what Molly did.
I'm not saying Molly wins, just she might be stronger than Colossus and that'd serve her well in the fight.
Originally posted by KingD19I know that your not knocking the feat 😎 . It's a hell of a feat for someone her size. If she can go class 100+ as an 11 year old, I think it's safe to say that she could end up being the straonest person on Marvel Earth 616 when she grows up. What do you think?
According to that scan, the only reason the ship veered off course is because he rapidly increased his weight on one section, and the ship couldn't compensate for the rapid weight increase. He's heavy sure, but not hundreds of thousands of tons, neither was the monster.Thing did the exact same feat, caught a huge monster, the monster was so big Thing looked like a speck, then he tossed it into the air and on it's ass. Colossus can do it, there's no more point in arguing.
I'm not downplaying the feat, but her highest feat is something Colossus could do as well. I would actually put pulling Cloak's cloak off higher on the feat list, since tossing the monster was a Thing level feat.
Colossus is stronger than Thing, Thing did the exact same feat years before Molly was even introduced. Colossus could easily replicate the same thing, to say otherwise is nonsense. As for that monster, it couldn't have weighed more than a couple hundred tons.
And Colossus has ripped open the gates of Hell, Dr. Strange said no amount of mere strength from a mortal should have been able to open them.
He's also made his way through billions of tons of impregnable rock.
And he's held up a cavern that was a couple thousand tons. The cavern collapsed, and he held the roof, while the rest of the mountain was pressing down on him.
If she is stronger than him, she hasn't proved it yet.
I agree with you though Mills, since her power is psionic, theoretically, her strength limit is only in her mind, so there may be none. And yes, Colossus could get a bfr loss if he doesn't take her serious, he might put a hand on her head, then she tosses him across the city or something.
Originally posted by Ptr_GrifinI know right?
If the monster really weighed that much, wouldn't he just drive Molly into the ground when he stepped on her?
That monster could just be hot air for all we know...
Molly durability is pretty damn low (fainted), considering she slightly got BFR by Captain Marvel during Runaways/Young Avenger.
Originally posted by The Pict
They were there to stop the monster, not dodge away from it. Also Molly went and stood under the Monster. The group exited the Leapfrog and Molly purposely went to the stand in it's path.
It's a great strength feat on her part, but it doesn't prove that she has the strength to stop an attack from Colossus dead in its tracks.
As far as I know, she doesn't have the speed or durability to deal with an attack of that magnitude. The monster's step can't be considered an attack. She just braced its weight until Nico gave her the boost to topple it over.
Originally posted by KingD19
Colossus is stronger than Thing, Thing did the exact same feat years before Molly was even introduced. Colossus could easily replicate the same thing, to say otherwise is nonsense. As for that monster, it couldn't have weighed more than a couple hundred tons.
