Hercules vs Sasquatch

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Where?

And you honestly think Hercules cheap shotted him twice? I don't see how Herc. could have punched him again without Walter knowing it was coming.

Pages 2-3, his comments and the Avengers directly talking about how Hercules is a fool and why would he do that? Pretty clear he wanted to fight Walter to lighten the mood while Sasquatch even mentioned Hercules started it 😬

Clearly you never boxed before, it's quite easy to follow up a shot after an inital suckerpunch.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It looked the same in that he was swinging a hammer, you can't really make that look like anything else.

I'm talking about the energy and the outcome.

Look at what happened in Stormbreaker same thing and even Oeming mentioned it personally to me. I was on a first name basis with him and he even put my name in a special thanks section of his comic.

Originally posted by -K-M-

Clearly you never boxed before, it's quite easy to follow up a shot after an inital suckerpunch.

Originally posted by snoopdogg But in boxing they don't stop after the first punch and have a conversation and punch you again. 😱

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But in boxing they don't stop after the first punch and have a conversation and punch you again. 😱

and where did they have a conversation? and regardless have you been in a fight in generaly? One sucker punch can rock and daze you and most fighters do not recover right away. Look at any mma fight when one fighter gets dazed, and in some matches a punch after they were dazed can actually "wake" the person up.

Originally posted by -K-M-
and where did they have a conversation? and regardless have you been in a fight in generaly? One sucker punch can rock and daze you and most fighters do not recover right away. Look at any mma fight when one fighter gets dazed, and in some matches a punch after they were dazed can actually "wake" the person up.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
They didn't have a conversation. Hercules stopped to say a few words then punched Sasquatch again. And Sasquatch wasn't dazed at all so that point is not really valid.

Exactally, and you know this how? 😬

So are you saying a holding back Hercules was able to daze Sasqsuatch?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So are you saying a holding back Hercules was able to daze Sasqsuatch?

from a sucker punch? yes its definetly possible and has happened many times in comics, and even in the real world a sucker punch from a weaker (not Hercules, he is stronger here) can rock a stronger fighter if he is not prepared for it. That's fact. 😬

But on the first page you said he appeared to be ok and just aggravated. I agree with that. However I don't agree with the suckershot.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
But on the first page you said he appeared to be ok and just aggravated. I agree with that. However I don't agree with the suckershot.

Because he recovered from the intital shot, not that hard to grasp really especially when it follows other fights and real world situations.

A sucker punch can leave the oppoenent with disorientation as they didn't know what just happened until they get their bearings back. That very well could have been what happened here and is highly probable.

You lost me. You said he got sucker shotted twice but recovered after the second one rather than the first?

Originally posted by snoopdogg
You lost me. You said he got sucker shotted twice but recovered after the second one rather than the first?

Yes, because from the intital sucker punch could have dazed him and would definetly left him with disorientation. Now while that was occuring Hercules would be able to (And did) follow up until Sas got his bearings and clued in what was happening. Also....

Originally posted by -K-M-
and where did they have a conversation? and regardless have you been in a fight in generaly? One sucker punch can rock and daze you and most fighters do not recover right away. Look at any mma fight when one fighter gets dazed, and in some matches a punch after they were dazed can actually "wake" the person up.

So a follying blow from Hercules dazed Sasquatch who was cheapshotted? Fine with me.

BTW I never said they had a conversatio with each other. Hercules stopped his assault and then gave a little speech then punches Sasquatch again.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
So a follying blow from Hercules dazed Sasquatch who was cheapshotted? Fine with me.

BTW I never said they had a conversatio with each other. Hercules stopped his assault and then gave a little speech then punches Sasquatch again.

No it would be the intital blow that left him disorientated, and the second blow was when he still didn't know what was happening 😬

Actually yes you did, "But in boxing they don't stop after the first punch and have a conversation and punch you again"

The point is Hercules stopped his asault to "talk" then punches Sasquatch again. What was Sasquach doing at this point? He must have been dazed then got punched again then woke up.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
The point is Hercules stopped his asault to "talk" then punches Sasquatch again. What was Sasquach doing at this point? He must have been dazed then got punched again then woke up.

Being disorientated or dazed from a sucker punch 😬

Originally posted by -K-M-
Being disorientated or dazed from a sucker punch 😬

Here is the defition of frolic:

Definition:

play lightheartedly: to frisk around, behave, or play in a carefree, uninhibited way

Originally posted by -K-M-
Look at what happened in Stormbreaker same thing and even Oeming mentioned it personally to me. I was on a first name basis with him and he even put my name in a special thanks section of his comic.

Meh, I tend to disregard a writers words when it doesn't really coincide with what we see on panel. They can write it, but Marvel ultimately has the final say on what sees print. If Oeming did indeed say that to you (I'm not doubting it) it doesn't really go with what the panels showed.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
From a guy who was just follying. 👆

It seriously doesn't take much from a sucker punch 😬

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
Meh, I tend to disregard a writers words when it doesn't really coincide with what we see on panel. They can write it, but Marvel ultimately has the final say on what sees print. If Oeming did indeed say that to you (I'm not doubting it) it doesn't really go with what the panels showed.

Oeming wrote Stormbreaker and Omega Flight, and just before he laid the hit (that had special fx attached with it when most hammer strikes don't) he talked about smashing planets. On-panel would seem to suggest that as even the Crew mentioned they had power to bust the planet themselves and we saw the fight with Wrecker and BRB.

I got my shoot out in the back of Mice Templar #1 from Oeming which was pretty suprizing actually. Ive talked to several marvel workers actually, Scott Vandal one of the handbook writers switched the bio for Puck and Walter after I talked to him.