There is far too much talking in this thread about this non-existent Dartz character. He was a main antagonist in a fanfic. An extremely elaborate fanfic but a fanfic nonetheless. And he doesn't measure up to any of the other villains as they win by default as they exist.
Anyway, Kaiba may screw the rules but Yami Marik makes the rules.
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Are you one of those kind of elitists who only care about what's canon in a story and unable to appreciate any of which might not be? Dartz was still a very likeable villain regardless (and he laughs in the face of continuity), as were his 3 cohorts, especially Rafael.
So yes. He does measure up to the others as far as I'm concerned. Now if he were an incompetent character or something, then I'd agree, but that wasn't the case.
As a matter a fact, Waking the Dragons is my favorite saga/arc in all of Yu-Gi-Oh! regardless of it being a filler, so smite me if you wish. 😐 😛
Why wasn't it counted as canon by the creators anyway? Because the King of Games got his ass kicked by Rafael?
Eh, aside from all that, I still liked the vid you posted. ^^ It was awesome how Yami-Marik created various torturous effects for all the different duels he was involved in. Kinda makes you wish there had been one with him and Kaiba too, just to see if he still thought all the magic stuff was nothing but hocus-pocus tricks.
Also, I guess I wasn't the only one who hated Marik's father and wanted him to die anyway was I? haermm
Are you one of those kind of elitists who only care about what's canon in a story and unable to appreciate any of which might not be?
Hardly. I always take anime over manga. But even I don't like Season 4 of Yu-Gi-Oh.
Besides Yu-Gi-Oh ahd some good filler. like Noah's World.
And I quite hated Marik's father too. I don't blame Yami Marik for killing his ass and I don't blame regular Marik for abandoning his "duty" as a Tombkeeper. I'd have left even sooner than he did.
I almost even agree with Yami Marik's motivations and intentions. Sure he's going to destroy the world but the world kinda deserves it.
Originally posted by Luminatus
Hardly. I always take anime over manga. But even I don't like Season 4 of Yu-Gi-Oh.Besides Yu-Gi-Oh ahd some good filler. like Noah's World.
Out of curiousity though, why didn't you like Season 4? (I don't have a problem with someone not liking it or anything. Just tryin' to understand where you're coming from)
The only things I didn't like about it were that the Egyptian Gods didn't make quite as much appearances as I thought they should have (only Obelisk was exposed to the Seal of Orichalcos), and... ugh. Mai's new voice. Thankfully though, she didn't make as many appearances as she did in Duelest Kingdom and Battle City, so I didn't have to hear it as much.
Originally posted by Luminatus
And I quite hated Marik's father too. I don't blame Yami Marik for killing his ass and I don't blame regular Marik for abandoning his "duty" as a Tombkeeper. I'd have left even sooner than he did.I almost even agree with Yami Marik's motivations and intentions. Sure he's going to destroy the world but the world kinda deserves it.
And if I recall right, Yami-Marik didn't actually want to destroy the world, but re-create it with him as ruler, which he believed he could do with the Millennium Puzzle and the 3 Egyptian God monsters.
Speaking of which, aside from the scenes where the Gods fight against Leviathan and later against Zorc, my favorite part with all 3 of them is at the end of Marik's duel where Obelisk restrains Ra with his arms, while Slifer coils around Ra's body (and Kuriboh taunting Yami-Marik in the process). Thought that was pretty sweet. 😄
@ 5:50
Amazing they still have the actual episodes on youtube.
edit- Is it me, or did that giant circle in the sky at 6:30 (created by the Ragnarok magic card) look a lot like the Seal of Orichalcos from the later season? Ironic (except Ragnarok is purple and the Orichalcos is green)...
Regardless, that was one of the most epic defeats in the entire series, to one of the greatest villains in the show no less.
I just never found the whole Orichelcos thing very interesting. Granted I didn't watch all of Season 4 as I skipped to Dawn of the Duel.
And yeah Yami Marik wouldn't destroy it like blow it up but I'm pretty sure what's left would qualify as destroyed.
Also here's a random vid I made with a line from Yami Bakura that I found hilarious.
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Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Yeah. The anime gave Zorc some unneeded "surgery"... ._.'As for the Leviathan, yeah. Makes me wonder if he would've been any bigger/more powerful if he contained the soul of the Pharoah (instead of Dartz).
When Obelisk punched Leviathan, he even made his body start to sink into him 😂, until Slifer's and Ra's attacks saved him, but that was pretty cool regardless.As for how a BEWD or 2 would do against him.. I dunno. Leviathan took out the 3 Knights of Atlantas (who were able to destroy the Orichalcos in Dartz's duel) pretty easily.
Possibly, though the Pharaoh would probably use it to try and do something good >__>.
Though the Leviathan lost to the three gods who are beneath the awesomeness that is Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Plus BEWD is said to surpass the gods. He would have been a better opponent, Creature of Light vs. Manifestation of Darkness. BEUD would own Leviathan 😛.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Possibly, though the Pharaoh would probably use it to try and do something good >__>.Though the Leviathan lost to the three gods who are beneath the awesomeness that is Blue-Eyes White Dragon. Plus BEWD is said to surpass the gods. He would have been a better opponent, Creature of Light vs. Manifestation of Darkness. BEUD would own Leviathan 😛.
Originally posted by NemeBro
So when you are not a boring, invincible character, you suck?Lol.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Ever consider that what was said about BEWD was just hyperbole? >.> Regardless, you're kinda overrating him IMO, and just because he did a little better against Zorc than the Egyptian Gods doesn't mean it would be the same with Leviathan. Plus, the gods (at the time) were infused with the power of every soul Dartz captured, as well as the spirits of the Duel Monsters (Dark Magician Girl and what not), which turned into those orbs of light that transferred to the Pharaoh's duel-disk just before he summoned the gods.. and that's how they defeated Leviathan, because they were fueled by so much light energy from the spirits (more light energy than what BEWD has anyway). In that state, they'd probably beat Zorc as well without even having to fuse together.
Bull (on the hyperbole part) 😛. He's above the gods uhuh.
But fair enough, I forgot that the gods were enhanced.
yeah its too bad i found this interesting yugioh forum almost a year later. bottom line is yami marik is the greatest villian. and for those that stated yami marik's outcome duels the only true duel he lost to was yami yugi. true he should've lost to joey but for that matter joey wouldn't had made it because he should've lost to odion. had marik not held back odion's final attack joey would be history.
and dartz was the most overrated villian of the series(filler or not). his deck was extremely cheap with nearly all his cards being anime only. originality with just maybe a couple of anime only cards shows a true duelist how good they truly are.
Originally posted by kefkaroth
yeah its too bad i found this interesting yugioh forum almost a year later. bottom line is yami marik is the greatest villian. and for those that stated yami marik's outcome duels the only true duel he lost to was yami yugi. true he should've lost to joey but for that matter joey wouldn't had made it because he should've lost to odion. had marik not held back odion's final attack joey would be history.and dartz was the most overrated villian of the series(filler or not). his deck was extremely cheap with nearly all his cards being anime only. originality with just maybe a couple of anime only cards shows a true duelist how good they truly are.
Don't remember too much of the duel Joey had with Odion at this point, but with how well he did against Yami-Marik, I'm sure he could've made a comeback still even if Marik hadn't held Odion back. If the opposite is true, then, holding Odion back for him to summon fake Ra was just fail on Marik's part.