Originally posted by Naija boy
lmao.my strategy depended on him fightin against only wonderwoman. Kyle would be unaffected by the attack. superman might also dodge it since he was half expecting it or get protected by Kyle. In which case hed be fighting all three. I also dont think he can drain the ring that easily.
Yes, your original stance was that he would be taking down Superman -using the radiation blast- and Kyle -since he would take no measures in defending himself-. Now, since it wouldn't be a blindside attack, Kyle would suppodley be better prepared in case of an attack. But remember, they have no ideea of his intentions, so Kyle wouldn't randomly raise a shield around them -Kyle focusing on enhacing his defenses for no other reason than seeing somebody approaching itself being kind of a stretch, but acceptable-. They are not expecting a battle, they are only seeing Surfer approaching. The difference is that, even if Superman wouldn't be taken by surprise, nothing would change in his case. Or you're suggesting that Surfer isn't fast enough to tag him with radiation even if Superman isn't battle-ready -and Surfer would obviously attack him first since he has the most exploitable weakness. From there on, like I said, he can either drain/manipulate Kyle's energies so that he beats him. Unless, again, you're suggesting that he doesn't have the maneuverability to handle Wonder Woman while doing so, Superman already being down.
In regards to Silver Surfer/Thor vs. Kyle, Hal, J'onn, Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, and Batman...
Originally posted by ultimatethor
n this argument if we put away sentiment for particular characters and groups and simply analyze this fight based on the powers of the characters it is clear that thor and surfer have a good chance of winning and the key is the surfer. On the entire JLA roster presented their are only two real threats (Gls) and one possible but minor threat (MM). Note that the surfer i am describing is one that is not afraid to use his powers to their full potential( sort of like the superman commonly used on this forum) so pls no arguments bringing up situations where the surfer forgot half of his powers should be used. Also arguments that the JLA have defeated more powerful characters than the surfer without taking into consideration the actual events plot twists and circumstances in those fights should also not be used as they are myopic just plain stupid.The two main factors that will determine whther the surfer and thor can pull this out are
1. Does the team have enough powers
2. How fast can they get the job doneIn reply to question one the answer is yes, the surfer alone has enough powers to finish off majority of the above mentioned justice league save the two gls. Superman WW, Batman and flash really are non factors in this fight as the surfer could take all of them out in quick succession in multiple ways. Superman has no chance in hell as surfer could screw with his energies really easily. Wonderwoman would be encased in ethel energy(the same material as his board) and would be done for. The flash and batman are completely helpless. I read somwhere something about the flashes IMP punch doing damage to the surfer. Lets imagine the surfer hitting the flash at light speed. Actually the flash can never get through the surfers force fields no matter what he does. Plus the surfer has sub molecular control. He could on a whim wreck both the flash and batmans molecular structure threby eliminating dem from d fight.
MM is a bit trickier as he is a great telepath but the surfer could KO him with a powerful enough hit(He has koed the hulk) from his board or one of my favourites trap him inside the boardIn reply to the second question, how fast can surfer eliminate the other characters aside the gls, he can do it pretty quickly considering that he is far faster than every character here except maybe the flash. Considering that this surfer i am talking about is fighting to his full potential he certainly is not going to dilly dally and allow people much slower dan him to hit im( i.e thing, hulk)
He will display the speed that allowed him to fly to almost every capital city in the world and ATTACK simultaneously all in a matter of seconds threby displaying fantastic non straight line speed and manoeuverability and even hit a being that telports in before he landed during battle. I also read somwhere hear dat superman can move thousands or even millions of time the speed of light. Even if this is true the surfer moves on a different level of speed and is still much faster than superman( 500000 light ears in seconds), searched the entire 616 Universe in seconds) If the surfer fights at the speed which admittedly
he rarely has but( which is mostly due to the lack of need to) but certainly can then he certainly can eliminate majority of this team pretty quickly and have time to assist thor who would be fighting the two gls ( of course he cant win) but will at least be able to hold on until SS comes to provide assistance.Now this is d final stage of d fight and it will be 2 on two thor and ss vs the two gls. SS is greater than any gl as he has
1. a greater power source
2. Has d slight edge in amount of powers
3. Can last longer without his power short circuiting or running out bcs of over usage or as i have recently heard running out of time
4. Is physically on par with superman and is faster than the glsThor IMO is on par with a gl powerwise but can certainly take out kyle(over 5000 years of experience compared to kyle an inexperienced gl) while the surfer takes out hal, However this part of the fight is going to be a cataclysmic battle and thor and surfer winning depends on how fast the surfer rips through the other memebers of the league.
The gls could howver attempt to protect the other memebers of their team but that would distract them from the main fight and leave dem open to attack.
All of the above descriptions of the surfer are while he is going all out ( no jobbing or PIS or CIS ) so pls no counter arguments bringing up
the showings that he did not use his powers to the fullest as they would be utterly absurd i.e armbar from black pantherThor and surfer may or may not take the majority (IMO they will) but they certainly can take a few fights as the surfer is leaps and bounds ahead of most if not all the JLA members powerwise.
herb
Originally posted by Naija boy
Anyhow the illusion that this thread wasnt a bait thread should pretty much be shattered now.
In what way ? Because I'm taking Surfer's side and trying to actually have a discussion, as opposed to everybody going 'bait, bait!" ?
Originally posted by batdude123
Don't sweat it.Everybody has n00b posts when they first start posting here.
Speak for yourself. uhuh