Griffin versus the Decepticons.....

Originally posted by Robtard
See my comment above about the Decep he's trying to teleport and it having to be in active motion. It's likely he'd get tagged while trying to get to one, considering how many guns are into play here. Maybe a few, but he's not clearing or coming close to it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
He jumps a bot, then jumps back, out of their line of fife. Jumps another, jumps back a good distance away. He jumps and jumps, faster than they can track and fire, he clears easily IMO. You're forgetting how fast he can jump.

He jumps very fast, not as fast as say Nightcrawler, but fast enough.

See my comment about the bot he's trying to jump and it having to be moving. This is his achilles-heel here.

Actually that's not accurate, he had those big ass generators at his lair, remember? Likely he got those from inside a store. And the Decepticons will surely be moving durng battle, trying in vain to track him.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Actually that's not accurate, he had those big ass generators at his lair, remember? Likely he got those from inside a store. And the Decepticons will surely be moving durng battle, trying in vain to track him.

Those generators are a couple hundred pounds each, not several ton robots.

He clearly states that an object need be moving, if it's too large. A car was used as an example in the film.

Yeah, some of them will be, I still say he gets tagged after a couple of these attacks while trying to find the moving Decep.

Originally posted by Robtard
Those generators are a couple hundred pounds each, not several ton robots.

He clearly states that an object need be moving, if it's too large. A car was used as an example in the film.

Yeah, some of them will be, I still say he gets tagged after a couple of these attacks while trying to find the moving Decep.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, so he ports to a distant vantage point, somewhere they cannot see him, and when he sees one moving, he jumps it.

They're highly advanced robots and there's a scene where you see them having a multitude of visual spectrum. Think it was TF1 with Blackout. So he's likely to be targeted and eventually shot to shit, imo, it'd be sooner than later.

If we apply the "basic knowledge of each others opponent" rule, then he's even more screwed.

I kinda implied that they just meet, they know nothing of each other.

And for the record, I thought about it a bit. Griffin clears the Decepticons easily until he gets to Starscream and Megatron, they stand a good chance of tagging him.

anyone with a gun kills him without too much difficulty.

How? How can they track someone who teleports too fast to track?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How? He can jump from Paris to Egypt, to Houston, to Rob's house, to Louisiana. He jumps back, grabs them, jumps them to a volcano, bada bing, dead bot.

Jump back into a ball of fire and get fried?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
How? How can they track someone who teleports too fast to track?

Because he isn't. You keep talking how he could port from one end of earth to the other, except in the movie he never does that. When he was chasing/being chased by Anakin he got tagged/tagged him easily.

Originally posted by Placidity
Jump back into a ball of fire and get fried?

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you saying they'd throw electrical wires at him? Because I don't recall anyone of them having this attack. Enlighten me.

Jolt, electrify!

Although the Decepticons weren't shown doing it, I would assume they put the new parts on Megatron the same way.

Also if the Decepticons keep moving, Griffin has no freaking chance. Every time he ports back in he would need to observe what is happening, the Deceps wouldn't be in the same spot. He would get shot in the face/blasted to pieces/ran over.

You still haven't addressed how he would possibly beat the Fallen.

Originally posted by Placidity
Also if the Decepticons keep moving, Griffin has no freaking chance. Every time he ports back in he would need to observe what is happening, the Deceps wouldn't be in the same spot. He would get shot in the face/blasted to pieces/ran over.

You still haven't addressed how he would possibly beat the Fallen.

And I didnt really mean to include the Fallen, but I guess we can do two scenarios, one with the Fallen, one without.

Look at how fast Griffin can jump here, you are seriously underestimating his powers.

YouTube video

In particular:

:40, he jumps from the desert to Tokyo in the bat of an eye.

From 1:00 to 1:19, he is jumping the car here and there, onto the sides of buildings, as if it were nothing.

2:09 to 2:17, he is all over the Coliseum, it takes him like a millisecond to jump.

2:39, he jumps the truck at Rice Bowl.

BTW, I totally forgot he can jump in midair, from one spot to the next, as shown in the vid, he and Rice Bowl can. Not to mention he jumped an entire bus at Sam.

So, he ports onto a Decepticon, ports it away, then is back in maybe two seconds. The Decepticons will be on the move, no doubt, but they will be in the same general area. So when he returns, he ports to a vantage point a few hundred feet away, waits for the right time, then ports another Decepticon away.

And if Starscream or Megatron take to the air, he can simply port onto them, then port them into a volcano.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

And if Starscream or Megatron take to the air, he can simply port onto them, then port them into a volcano.

No he can't. They are moving at great speeds - he will port to where they are at one instant, by when he materializes they would be somewhere else. Port a flyer into a volcano, how does that work?

Originally posted by Placidity
No he can't. They are moving at great speeds - he will port to where they are at one instant, by when he materializes they would be somewhere else. Port a flyer into a volcano, how does that work?

Ok, sooner or later Megatron os SS will have to land to capture/kill him, right? So he jumps around, here and there, out of their line of sight/fire, and when they land, he ports them away. If he is jumping around as fast as he can, no way in hell are they able to shoot him.

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you saying they'd throw electrical wires at him? Because I don't recall anyone of them having this attack. Enlighten me.

I never said that was an attack dur

They could easily CREATE some electric wires because they aren't robtards 😉 Thats you enlightened 😱