Originally posted by namorsubbyBats and BP fair enough, it's hard to tell, let's say split.
bats is more skilled, they're the same physically(besides the senses), BP has the tech advantage.......but i think bruce is more a more tactical combatant and dirty fighter........but yeah, that's why i put the ?, because IMO this is a hard fight to judge.there's no way slade is losing to his retarded marvel counterpart. slade is what wade is supposed to be, in a perfectly effecient world.
shiva is more skilled....that's why i chose her.
i know hawkeye beats ollie
i thought that was catman......and yeah CW loses, sorry.
i'm not so sure.......i consider them basically identical.
tiger and deadshot are the two most dangerous additions to this team after slade.......so if you don't know aout them, you're missing a very vital piece of the equation IMO.
Only if you know VERY little about Deadpool or a biased DC fan. Deadpool was meant to be a parody but has grown to be a much better character, but that aside, Slade's got nothing on Deadpool. Just because you're under impression that he's "retard" doesnt change the fact that Deadpool is as good or even better than Slade. He's fought the best Marvel could offer and won. Not to mention his overall feats beat Slade's. Deadpool is what Slade WOULD be if he gets a better healing factor and goes insane. The only way Deadpool'd lose to Slade if it's some poorly written crossover with DC not allowing their characters to lose.
I admitted I dont know Shiva very well, but I doubt that she's more skilled for sole reason - you can't possibly get more skilled than Elektra, we're talking about a chick who beat Wolverine, is strong enough to punch HOLES in people, move faster than human eye reacts and deflect bullets with her sais.. and even deflect bullets with her bare FIST using chi-amp... Can Shiva really match that?
I still believe Daredevil would beat NW, DD is like Batman, except Bats is a little stronger while DD is more agile and has radar.
Fair enough about Tiger and Deadshot, dont know anything about them, but I DO know a thing or two about Shang Chi, he's one of the best marvel fighters. And Punisher is a beast with his latest equipment (pre Frankencastle) Those two can definitely hold their opponents long enough for other team members to be done with their opponents and help them out, and no matter how good Tiger and Deadshot are they'd be overwhelmed.
Originally posted by SamZED
Bats and BP fair enough, it's hard to tell, let's say split.Only if you know VERY little about Deadpool or a biased DC fan. Deadpool was meant to be a parody but has grown to be a much better character, but that aside, Slade's got nothing on Deadpool. Just because you're under impression that he's "retard" doesnt change the fact that Deadpool is as good or even better than Slade. He's fought the best Marvel could offer and won. Not to mention his overall feats beat Slade's. Deadpool is what Slade WOULD be if he gets a better healing factor and goes insane. The only way Deadpool'd lose to Slade if it's some poorly written crossover with DC not allowing their characters to lose.
I admitted I dont know Shiva very well, but I doubt that she's more skilled for sole reason - you can't possibly get more skilled than Elektra, we're talking about a chick who beat Wolverine, is strong enough to punch HOLES in people, move faster than human eye reacts and deflect bullets with her sais.. and even deflect bullets with her bare FIST using chi-amp... Can Shiva really match that?
I still believe Daredevil would beat NW, DD is like Batman, except Bats is a little stronger while DD is more agile and has radar.
Fair enough about Tiger and Deadshot, dont know anything about them, but I DO know a thing or two about Shang Chi, he's one of the best marvel fighters. And Punisher is a beast with his latest equipment (pre Frankencastle) Those two can definitely hold their opponents long enough for other team members to be done with their opponents and help them out, and no matter how good Tiger and Deadshot are they'd be overwhelmed.
the only way deadpool would lose to slade is if he fights exactly how he does all the time..........slade's playing for keeps......wade's just playin around.
yes, shiva can......why? because a couple key feats vigouriously promoted by a few "extremely enthusiatic" fans have put her up on a pedastal......have we forgotten that this is the girl who had her ass handed to her by bulleyes(in fact, didn't he fight her and DD a the same time?)
deadshot has a win and a stalemate against the deadliest player in this game....deathstroke, and BT has a stalemate against him as well.........these guys are key factors here
Originally posted by namorsubby
yes, shiva can......why? because a couple key feats vigouriously promoted by a few "extremely enthusiatic" fans have put her up on a pedastal......have we forgotten that this is the girl who had her ass handed to her by bulleyes(in fact, didn't he fight her and DD a the same time?)
To be fair, she's gotten a power/skill amp since her original death, and I remember a DD/Elektra vs BE fight which was basically the two of them beating the crap out of him.
Elektra's one of the better in Marvel, good enough to make it a very good fight and I don't think either takes it all the time, but they're both kinda superhuman (the Leopard blow punching through someone's skull? And a lesser version of Cass's move reading stemming from raw experience) and Shiva simply lives for martial arts. There was a very long stretch when Lady Shiva was the pinnacle of the martial arts world in DC. So I think the win factor goes to her.
Originally posted by namorsubby
the only way deadpool would lose to slade is if he fights exactly how he does all the time..........slade's playing for keeps......wade's just playin around.yes, shiva can......why? because a couple key feats vigouriously promoted by a few "extremely enthusiatic" fans have put her up on a pedastal......have we forgotten that this is the girl who had her ass handed to her by bulleyes(in fact, didn't he fight her and DD a the same time?)
deadshot has a win and a stalemate against the deadliest player in this game....deathstroke, and BT has a stalemate against him as well.........these guys are key factors here
We really should forget that concidering she recently beat up Bullseye while being injured and drugged all by herself. I do not concider myself to be an Elektra fan but we can't just dismiss her feats and say Shiva wins no matter of what, especially since everything is in Elektra's favor.
Well, Punisher recently took on the wrecking crew all by himself with his latest equipment. And Chi is a fighter on IronFist's level who I believe would beat Deathstroke in a h2h fight. Chi-manip and superior fighting skills ftw.