Thanos and Darkseid Vs Neron

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Look at your own posts, because this is getting silly.

You tried to put up Neron beating Mongul as something impressive. Thanos has already beaten stronger characters than Mongul with just as much effort. Hence why I mentioned it. Beating Mongul isn't impressive. Then I mentioned Darkseid empowering someone who was -at least- as powerful as Superman.

Simply put, the feats you posted do in -no way- put Neron above Thanos/Darkseid. No, Thanos and Darkseid are not equally powerful, but the feats you posted would not put him above -any- of them.

What Galan brought up is a different matter.

Agree on all counts. I would add Thanos is superior to DS 😛 😄

Originally posted by Omega Vision
I wont argue that Thanos has mad feats but I'm sure he didn't beat Surfer effortlessly. Here's how he killed Mongul sr. (from Neron's respect thread)

Now just imagine Mongul is purple and you have how a fight between Thanos and Neron would go. Look I'm not saying Mongul is Thanos's equal (at least not Post Crisis) but he's in the same rough strength class and Neron made him look helpless.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
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When the Spectre fails to stop you its safe to say that you're out of Thanos or Darkseid's weightclass. Now together they may have a slim chance but to say things like "Thanos solos" is like saying an average man can take a Muay Thai master in a fight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul isn't high up on the totem pole. Thanos or Darkseid would both beat him to death as well. The Spectre also failed to stop the black lanterns. We need to look at the circumstances. It seems Neron made the Spectre an offer, but this isn't proof that in an all out battle Neron has a snowballs chance in hell against an all out Spectre.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Of course not but then who does have a chance against an all out Spectre? Not many people and certainly not Thanos or Darkseid.
Neron did manage to separate the Spectre from his host which clearly puts him on at least a similar power level as the Spectre and which proves that he can challenge God's will at least to some small degree. The only other things that have separated the Spectre (not even the Spectre can separate itself from its host) from its host are God and the Spear of Destiny.
Spectre has failed in the past usually because of some celestial condition (in FC he was forbidden to interfere and in Blackest Night he's dealing with the power of the Anti-God) in that case its clear that the Spectre wasn't hemmed in and though its true Neron only beat him by making a deal with him the fact remains that the Spectre attacked him and was repulsed.

A black lantern ring can take over the Spectre, but not Thanos. We don't just ignore how or why these things were accomplished to create a false representation of how these events actually panned out.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My point is this doesn't prove that Neron is beyond Thanos. It was a neat trick that's for sure, but it doesn't prove he has the raw power to put Thanos down.

A black lantern ring can take over the Spectre, but not Thanos. We don't just ignore how or why these things were accomplished to create a false representation of how these events actually panned out.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know Thanos wouldn't fall victim to a Black Lantern ring? Just one more case of your "Thanos is special" problem?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why do you think it worked on the Spectre in the first place?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
It worked because Geoff Johns wanted to create a sense of urgency and drama. It worked because all dead things (with the exception of Don Hall) are at the Black Ring's mercy.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Thanos we debate with isn't dead so it has no power over him.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Really? He loves Death, I could see the rings taking over him while still alive.
But that's besides the point since you've already invalidated your point about the BL rings overpowering the Spectre by agreeing that it only worked because he's a spirit inhabiting a dead body.

Thanos would never fall victim to Neron's temptations and could never be taken over because he's alive.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I brought it up because it's foolish to assume because one can take over/tempt the Spectre as proof of him being superior to Thanos.

Thanos would never fall victim to Neron's temptations and could never be taken over because he's alive.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know? If Neron made himself look like Death I can see Thanos falling for it. Lust makes people stupid, Thanos is no exception. His only hope then would be for Darkseid to cockblock him (thus saving him)

Originally posted by Omega Vision
How do you know? If Neron made himself look like Death I can see Thanos falling for it. Lust makes people stupid, Thanos is no exception. His only hope then would be for Darkseid to cockblock him (thus saving him)

Originally posted by quanchi112
Mongul isn't high up on the totem pole. Thanos or Darkseid would both beat him to death as well. The Spectre also failed to stop the black lanterns. We need to look at the circumstances. It seems Neron made the Spectre an offer, but this isn't proof that in an all out battle Neron has a snowballs chance in hell against an all out Spectre.

They Duo Lose. They can't do a thing to Neron. He's really unbeatable. You have to trick him with a deal. You can't beat him with power. Not unless you are like A high up angel like Lucifer or something.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mongul got bitched by Neron. He is stronger than Superman. Neron completely pwned him. Not even Thanos is strong enough to pwn someone who is stronger than Superman so easily.

Originally posted by Zeuodin
Mongul got bitched by Neron. He is stronger than Superman. Neron completely pwned him. Not even Thanos is strong enough to pwn someone who is stronger than Superman so easily.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
how would neron know thanos loves death?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
wrong thanos would beat mongul

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because he's Neron. He knew exactly what all the villains wanted so why shouldn't he know what Thanos wants?