Ozymandias vs. V

Ozy is gay.

1. Ozy
2. V
3. Ozy

Originally posted by EvilAngel
He caught a bullet 😐 Those things move pretty fast. Or so i hear.

First off - I LOVE your sarcasm. It's just top-notch.

Secondly - Yes. He caught a bullet. I saw the movie. I read the graphic novel.

I also saw V for Vendetta - and a scene where he fought across a (room-sewer-chamber?) and killed a squad of (cops? soldiers?) all before they could reload their weapons.

Also pretty fast no?

What makes Ozymandias that much faster than V?

Originally posted by DarkNemesis
Well, if my memory serves, Veidt's strength feats seemed to be more impressive.

Smashing Blake through kitchen counters and glass tables, flinging him across the room, and then tossing him through plate glass (which you'd have to "step on the gas just to put a crack in it" ). Seriously, the glass just gave away like a paper-thin layer of ice. And not to mention kicking and throwing Nite Owl and Rorschach 30+ feet across the room in his arctic retreat. Those were all feats that IMO put him above V in the strength department.

I thought that was the assassin he hired.

EDIT: fffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu-

Originally posted by Scythe
I thought that was the assassin he hired.

YOU ARE STUPID AND I HATE YOU OMG WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU OMG WHAT THE **** MAN IM GOING TO MURDER YOU WITH A SCYTHE AND KEYBLADE YOUR FACE

Originally posted by Quincy
YOU ARE STUPID AND I HATE YOU OMG WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU OMG WHAT THE **** MAN IM GOING TO MURDER YOU WITH A SCYTHE AND KEYBLADE YOUR FACE

YOU THINK I LIKE GETTING YELLED AT?!?!? F*CK THIS, IM GONNA GO LAY A F*CKING EGG, I DON'T NEED THIS SHIT!!

I'M GOING TO DRESS ALL IN BLACK AND SLAM YOUR HEAD ON A MARBLE TABLE AND THROW YOU THROUGH THE WINDOW OF YOUR FANCY ****ING APARTMENT AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK UP AT ME THE LAST THOUGHT BEFORE YOU'LL DIE WILL BE

"THAT WAS QUINCY? WTF I THOUGHT IT WAS AN ASSASSIN HE HIRED!"

Whoa. Hold on there Paul Newman, I have a fancy f*cking apartment?! Dead or not, I win.

I suppose you do.

Originally posted by Quincy
First off - I LOVE your sarcasm. It's just top-notch.

Secondly - Yes. He caught a bullet. I saw the movie. I read the graphic novel.

I also saw V for Vendetta - and a scene where he fought across a (room-sewer-chamber?) and killed a squad of (cops? soldiers?) all before they could reload their weapons.

Also pretty fast no?

What makes Ozymandias that much faster than V?

Eh

He killed them in the time it took them to reload their weapons true, but it seemed like in most of that time they were just gawping at him. Only a handful actually reloaded, and he threw things at those. So yeah, he's fast, but he's not as fast as Ozymandias.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Eh

He killed them in the time it took them to reload their weapons true, but it seemed like in most of that time they were just gawping at him. Only a handful actually reloaded, and he threw things at those. So yeah, he's fast, but he's not as fast as Ozymandias.

Ah come on give some credit.

Ozymandias catching a bullet was impressive. But how does it really rank as a speed feat? Seems more like a quick reflex feat. He can close his hand really fast.

V was moving around slicing and dicing all at high speeds.

Know what I'm saying?

Originally posted by Quincy
Ah come on give some credit.

Ozymandias catching a bullet was impressive. But how does it really rank as a speed feat? Seems more like a quick reflex feat. He can close his hand really fast.

V was moving around slicing and dicing all at high speeds.

Know what I'm saying?

Ah, come on, dude. You're short-changing Ozy, big time. In order for Ozy to move at the speed he did, relative to the speed of the bullet, puts his speed waaaaaaaaaaaaay above human. On top of this, having to clench his hand as fast as he did puts his speed waaaaaaay above human.

Edit - I just noticed that your post started similar to how mine did. I'm not mocking you. It's just the best way to start the post! 😠

Did you need to say "relative?" I feel like you say that alot. Like it's a tactic or something.

Anyways, I'm not selling him short. It was impressive. I sure as shit couldn't catch a bullet. And it took speed sure. But why does that make him super ridiculously faster than V? I didn't see Ozy actually MOVE super fast during the movie - at least not as fast as V did during that final fight scene.

And you are A HUGE COPYCAT for copying my structure. You dingleberry.

Originally posted by Quincy
Did you need to say "relative?" I feel like you say that alot. Like it's a tactic or something.

Yes. It implies that the speed of Ozy is on scale with the speed of the bullet. On scale implies that it is close like a third the speed, half the speed, etc.

I use "relative" alot because it's the most appropriate way to use the word, at the time of use. There are other words I could use, but it would require:

1. More words to say the same.
2. Another word that doesn't actually capture the point as well as "relative."
3. For me to use another word when talking about speed/velocity in which, relative is and should be used.

I think you're stating this due to the ambiguity of the use. For me, that's not the case. When used for objects in motion, that means that the speed of one can be expressed in a fraction with integers, both numerator and denominator, in single digit whole numbers with a ratio of 1/9 or greater.

Originally posted by Quincy
Anyways, I'm not selling him short. It was impressive. I sure as shit couldn't catch a bullet. And it took speed sure. But why does that make him super ridiculously faster than V? I didn't see Ozy actually MOVE super fast during the movie - at least not as fast as V did during that final fight scene.

Here's why: The did it on Myth Busters with an arrow. They had to make the hand close like.....5-times faster than a highly trained martial artist. I can't remember it properly, but I think it was 5-times faster. The arrow flies around 200fps (maybe 240). That's about 140 MPH.

The handgun bullet that the assassin fired most likely traveled between 1100-1500 feet per second.

That means that a human hand (professional level)can close fast enough to catch something that is roughly 5 times slower than an arrow. We'll say something that travels at 40 FPS is around Peak human speed to catch an arrow. If you want to go higher, we can go to 50 FPS, but that's pushing the velocity of an arrow a bit much. (From the type of bow and arrows used in Myth Busters, that is.)

Knowing that, we can figure out how much faster Ozy is than a peak human. We simply divide the peak speed for human reaction time by the peak speed of Ozy's reaction time.

Here we go:

1100/40=27.5 times faster.

Let's go high end, now:

1500/50 = 30 times faster.

So, we can say that Ozy is, at least, 27-30 times faster than a human.

But, that's not all of it.

The arrow, when caught in that super machine, took a tad bit to slow down, once caught. It traveled a short distance inside the hand while it closed all the way. The hand had to be timed properly to catch the arrow, which is superhuman, in and of itself.

On top of this, the bullet is MUCH smaller than an arrow. It is almost invisible to the human eye...unless you use tracer rounds at night or some shite.

There is not telling how much faster one would have to be to catch a bullet fired at almost muzzle velocity versus catching an arrow, at the same speed. His vision, alone, would have to be superhuman to see that.

Originally posted by Quincy
And you are A HUGE COPYCAT for copying my structure. You dingleberry.

Prolly. But......IT"S GOOD! 🙁

Justed wanted to bump this thread to say that if Ozy is fast enough to catch/dodge bullets, logically he can dodge anything below that speed. This is confirmed by him catching Comedian's thrown meat cleaver. I give him the better odds in the all out melee.