Apocalypse vs. Wonder Woman

Started by Omega Vision13 pages

Originally posted by galactusischere
She can't go at light speed fo sure.
Hes obviously stronger, one of his powersets is that he can get as strong as he wants.
He can become as strongs as savage Hulk if he wants or Planet Hulk or base Galactus without amp.
He can also become as big as Exitar if he wants to.
Nothing WW can do against him

And birds go tweet. When has he done any of those things on panel? If he can do that why isn't he Super King Big Nuts of the Marvel Universe?

Originally posted by Omega Vision
And birds go tweet. When has he done any of those things on panel? If he can do that why isn't he Super King Big Nuts of the Marvel Universe?

Um.. because hes a jobber?
and if u dont believe me answer these questions: why was Abraxas stopped? Why was Oblivion stopped? Why was Magus stopped?
Because if any of them succeed then there would be NO plot involving earth.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Um.. because hes a jobber?
and if u dont believe me answer these questions: why was Abraxas stopped? Why was Oblivion stopped? Why was Magus stopped?
Because if any of them succeed then there would be NO plot involving earth.

You're not helping your case one bit. Prove to me Apocalypse can grow as large as Exitar or become infinitely strong or stop debating.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
You're not helping your case one bit. Prove to me Apocalypse can grow as large as Exitar or become infinitely strong or stop debating.

It is listed as one of his powersets.
Im not going to go through all of Apocolypse's showings because u don't WANT to believe that WW loses or Apoc doesn't have those powers

Originally posted by galactusischere
It is listed as one of his powersets.
Im not going to go through all of Apocolypse's showings because u don't WANT to believe that WW loses or Apoc doesn't have those powers

Show me scans and I'll believe. We all know Wonder Woman has super-strength, flight, and super-speed not because it's been listed in some handbook but because its been shown time and time again. Now show me real evidence that Apocalypse can truly do what you say he can and I'll shut up.

Originally posted by galactusischere
It is listed as one of his powersets.
Im not going to go through all of Apocolypse's showings because u don't WANT to believe that WW loses or Apoc doesn't have those powers

apoc has never shown his infinite strength, diana can hang with supes. i have to take her for the majority.

Gotta be Apocalypse.

Apocalypse.

Apoc

Originally posted by Nihilist
Bullshit, you cant just call crappy writing when you dont like it, have you actually read the fight.

You mean Acts of Vengeance X-Factor 50....Yes I have it.

1. This was written in a old X-factor comic that is not known for its great writing and Loki was under written.

2. Arishem the Judge right hand shouldnt have been blown off so easily by Jean.

I think its crap writing.

Written properly Loki is above Apoc.

Originally posted by The Nuul
You mean Acts of Vengeance X-Factor 50....Yes I have it.

1. This was written in a old X-factor comic that is not known for its great writing and Loki was under written.

2. Arishem the Judge right hand shouldnt have been blown off so easily by Jean.

I think its crap writing.

Written properly Loki is above Apoc.


Calling something crap writing (even when it is rightly crap) doesn't seem to cut it for some people. Hence why some people seem to think Scathan (a celestial) is more powerful than Living Tribunal just because of one crappy little book from thirty years ago written by a total hack with no understanding of power levels or cosmic hierarchy.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Calling something crap writing (even when it is rightly crap) doesn't seem to cut it for some people. Hence why some people seem to think Scathan (a celestial) is more powerful than Living Tribunal just because of one crappy little book from thirty years ago written by a total hack with no understanding of power levels or cosmic hierarchy.
"Superhuman Strength: Apocalypse possesses superhuman strength that he can further increase by drawing upon outside energy sources; Apocalypse has shown to be strong enough to physically restrain the Hulk while the Hulk was in an enraged state. Hence, Apocalypse is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons."

see that?
Hulk's strenght>WW's

Originally posted by galactusischere
"Superhuman Strength: Apocalypse possesses superhuman strength that he can further increase by drawing upon outside energy sources; Apocalypse has shown to be strong enough to physically restrain the Hulk while the Hulk was in an enraged state. Hence, Apocalypse is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons."

see that?
Hulk's strenght>WW's


That doesn't make Sense. Wonder Woman could restrain an enraged hulk. DC says she the second strongest being on DC earth. How can she not restrain Hulk?

Originally posted by Zeuodin
That doesn't make Sense. Wonder Woman could restrain an enraged hulk. DC says she the second strongest being on DC earth. How can she not restrain Hulk?

It has been argued that Hulk>WW in strenght.
How can she restrain Hulk without her lasso?
there are atleast 5 DC earth based characters stronger than her.
But for now all I can think of is DD.

Originally posted by galactusischere
"Superhuman Strength: Apocalypse possesses superhuman strength that he can further increase by drawing upon outside energy sources; Apocalypse has shown to be strong enough to physically restrain the Hulk while the Hulk was in an enraged state. Hence, Apocalypse is capable of lifting far in excess of 100 tons."

see that?
Hulk's strenght>WW's


See that's what I want to see. Some actual feats. Now that you've convinced me he has the strength to take down Wonder Woman show me evidence he has the speed to keep up with her. Because strength is fine but WW's main assets, what make her valuable even in light of the fact that Superman is stronger then her is her combat skill and her agility which outstrip Superman's by far.

That Hulk did not have the ability to grow in strength. So he was pretty much 100 tons and no more.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
See that's what I want to see. Some actual feats. Now that you've convinced me he has the strength to take down Wonder Woman show me evidence he has the speed to keep up with her. Because strength is fine but WW's main assets, what make her valuable even in light of the fact that Superman is stronger then her is her combat skill and her agility which outstrip Superman's by far.

Im 100% sure that Apoc doesn't have any combat skills.
He can move at superspeed but it is unclear how fast BUT he can generate energy blasts, has Telekenisis, and can teleport. Those make up for it.
and for the Hulk incident(couldn't find all the scans but this is enough to show what I mean):
http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/1/10069/514868-apocalypse_vs_hulk_00_super.jpg
Edit: and check out this ability that we didn't know about.
"Blood of Apocalypse: As recently revealed, Apocalypse's techno-organic blood has many unique properties. With only a drop of his blood into a vat of organs, blood, etc. the virus can rewrite the genetic code of the material within to form a new body for Apocalypse."
just like Lobo

Originally posted by Kris Blaze
That Hulk did not have the ability to grow in strength. So he was pretty much 100 tons and no more.

Yea but still impressive

The main test for Apocalypse to see if he could take down Wonder Woman would be if he fought and beat Thor because that would prove he was > Wonder Woman. Even then it's not a stomp. Apocalypse is going to have to work for a victory any way you slice it.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yea but still impressive

And well within Wonder Woman's capabilities since she eats Baseline Class 100's for breakfast.