Lol at King Thor being hurt by infinitely weaker people than Superman. I count Desak with his enchanted weapons and nothing more.
Originally posted by batdude123
Phantom Stranger also gave him some magic resistance, iirc.
^ I think you're confusing circumstances in that story-arc, Phantom Stranger doesn't help Superman understand his "weakness" to magic:
Originally posted by OneDumbG0Unless you're thinking of another scene I'm unaware of...
And as far as I know, Zatanna only taught Superman how to recognize and resist magical attempts to subvert his will in Superman #662. And Phantom Stranger's gift to Superman in Superman Annual #13 was temporary. Superman's own thought captions refer to the protection as protecting him for the time being and Arion also states that if he was at full power, the enchantment would be worthless. I've never seen Superman resisting magic after his Arion fight nor see Superman's S-shield glow after being attacked by magic after this fight. And I've never seen this magical boost even referenced after this fight. Indeed, he was waylaid by magic-K in the more recent Superman/Batman #46 and Phantom Stranger was present in that issue as well. Where was this so-called magic resistance then? For you to assume that Phantom Stranger's temporary gift has lasted past that one fight would involve even more presumptiveness than current Thor retaining his Rune magics. Phantom Stranger's gift has never been depicted nor mentioned again and there's current evidence against Superman having it.
Originally posted by -Pr-
proof that he could one shot thor?
The proof lies in the fact that King Thor has been hurt by infinitely weaker forces. One hit from this multi-galaxy powered Superman should put a clean hole through Thor (or turn him into a blood smear). This Superman can remove Thor's arm even easier or his head for that matter.
Originally posted by thanos-prime
And it's not like superman is gonna kill him in 1 hit.
In your opinion how strong does someone has to be to one-shot King Thor? Be honest now and choose the level below. I put the list in order of least to greatest amount of force needed. For example, it takes more force to do 2. than it takes to do 1. So what is the first number Thor falls at?
1. Strong enough to one-shot a planet with a punch
2. Strong enough to move a planet at noticeable speed
3. Strong enough to move several planets at noticeable speed
4. The strength of a whole sun sized star
5. The strength of a galaxy
6. The strength of many galaxies
7. Infinite strength (The strength of an universe).
Originally posted by quanchi112
Odg's 100 percent correct. Phantom Stranger grants his "s" emblem a magical shield against a depowered Arion's attacks. Have no idea what you are talking about.
It wasn't Phantom Stranger that granted Superman protection from Arion. That came from Zatanna teaching him the essential principles of magic, which allowed Supes to understand how to resist Arion's spell when he attacked him in Metropolis.
The Phantom Stranger deal affected other situations namely the kryptonian demon that tried to take over Superman's mind in # 666.
^ I think you're thinking about two different things. Zatanna's teachings allowed him to realize that spells which overcome your will can be fought off by just using your will. He used those teachings to help ward off just such a spell by focusing on real-life tethers to reality, like any normal person would. The Phantom Stranger gift was something that protected him from being blasted by Arion's spells temporarily. It manifested itself as a glowing S-shield and hasn't been seen outside of that story-arc.
Phantom Stranger did something altogether different in Superman #666. Something about splitting his soul so that none of Superman's actions actually corrupted his own soul, which was what the Kryptonian demon wanted to do by creating a nightmarish dream reality. That magical assistance had no connection to the glowing S-shield from Superman Annual #13 as I recall.
Originally posted by AllanklesWrong. It's stated plain as day here in the scan.
It wasn't Phantom Stranger that granted Superman protection from Arion. That came from Zatanna teaching him the essential principles of magic, which allowed Supes to understand how to resist Arion's spell when he attacked him in Metropolis.The Phantom Stranger deal affected other situations namely the kryptonian demon that tried to take over Superman's mind in # 666.
How can so many people confuse this when it's plain as day.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/08-3.jpg
Supes beat a depowered mage with a spell of protection on him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong. It's stated plain as day here in the scan.How can so many people confuse this when it's plain as day.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/08-3.jpg
Supes beat a depowered mage with a spell of protection on him.
Ok. Cool. I thought you were talking about the incident with Arion's attempted mind control.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ I think you're thinking about two different things. Zatanna's teachings allowed him to realize that spells which overcome your will can be fought off by just using your will. He used those teachings to help ward off just such a spell by focusing on real-life tethers to reality, like any normal person would. The Phantom Stranger gift was something that protected him from being blasted by Arion's spells temporarily. It manifested itself as a glowing S-shield and hasn't been seen outside of that story-arc.Phantom Stranger did something altogether different in Superman #666. Something about splitting his soul so that none of Superman's actions actually corrupted his own soul, which was what the Kryptonian demon wanted to do by creating a nightmarish dream reality. That magical assistance had no connection to the glowing S-shield from Superman Annual #13 as I recall.
I have #666 and the aforementioned Zatanna magical teaching issue. I don't have Superman annual 13, first time I'm seeing it.
