DC vs Marvel

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Reading some of these post it seems that Orin can flat out beat Superman. 🤨

Originally posted by thanos-prime
i would say they are piers in strength.But im not sure what orion's speed is but i know Gladiator has gone 100 times the speed of light.and gladiator's confidence doesn't just drop because he can't beat someone.Imo gladiator would take him.

Orion's done just fine against faster opponents before. Much better than Gladiator has done against slower opponents. So your speed arguments is a non factor.

Originally posted by Face of Olympus
Orion's done just fine against faster opponents before. Much better than Gladiator has done against slower opponents. So your speed arguments is a non factor.
If he did not use his speed against those opponents then there is no point in mentioning his battles against them.If you have any instances where he used his speed and still got beat i would like to see scans .

Originally posted by thanos-prime
If he did not use his speed against those opponents then there is no point in mentioning his battles against them.If you have any instances where he used his speed and still got beat i would like to see scans .

Correct me if I'm wrong but unless Gladiator moves at Human speed, then he's always using his speed.

Originally posted by Face of Olympus
Correct me if I'm wrong but unless Gladiator moves at Human speed, then he's always using his speed.
You can't just assume because he can go much faster than a human that he is always going faster.And im talking about an instance where he was really using his speed and was still beaten if you don't have an instance then there is no reason to count his speed out.

Originally posted by thanos-prime
You can't just assume because he can go much faster than a human that he is always going faster.And im talking about an instance where he was really using his speed and was still beaten if you don't have an instance then there is no reason to count his speed out.
I agree. 😎

Originally posted by thanos-prime
If he did not use his speed against those opponents then there is no point in mentioning his battles against them.If you have any instances where he used his speed and still got beat i would like to see scans .

I've posted scans of Orion using speed before. He also used it quite a bit during Simonson's run. The battle with Darkseid. He even chased the Black Racer, who was moving 8x the speed of light.

Also, Orion would defeat Gladiator, but not easily.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
I've posted scans of Orion using speed before. He also used it quite a bit during Simonson's run. The battle with Darkseid. He even chased the Black Racer, who was moving 8x the speed of light.

Also, Orion would defeat Gladiator, but not easily.

gladiator has gone much faster than 8x the speed of light and it's your opinion that he wins.

Not in battle, though.

And if Orion can take down Superman with using a portion of the Astro Force, he can do the same with Gladiator.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Not in battle, though.

And if Orion can take down Superman with using a portion of the Astro Force, he can do the same with Gladiator.

im pretty sure in his fight with hyperion they were said to be fighting at nanoseconds ill have to check.

Hmmm, didn't know about that. Though, I'm sure Glads doesn't always fight at that speed. Anyway, they're peers in speed.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Hmmm, didn't know about that. Though, I'm sure Glads doesn't always fight at that speed. Anyway, they're peers in speed.
what is orion's top speed?

I don't think his top speed was ever stated.

BTW, I'd like to point out the power of the Mother Box. Orion has tracked beings from across the universe and other dimensions with it. The Mother Box can sense anything and telephically send it to Orion.

When Tony Stark had the Mother Box on top of his Iron suit, he easily tracked down the Flash. So, speed will be a non factor.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
BTW, I'd like to point out the power of the Mother Box. Orion has tracked beings from across the universe and other dimensions with it. The Mother Box can sense anything and telephically send it to Orion.

When Tony Stark had the Mother Box on top of his Iron suit, he easily tracked down the Flash. So, speed will be a non factor.

I wasn't aware the mother box was part of his normal equipment and how is tracking him going to help him catch gladiator?

Originally posted by thanos-prime
I wasn't aware the mother box was part of his normal equipment and how is tracking him going to help him catch gladiator?

Of course it's apart of his normal gear. It's how it keeps his rage in check. Or at least it used to. Practically all New Gods own one. Like you or I would own a cell phone.

Check out JLA/Avengers. Iron Man easily pin pointed and I think touched Flash when the Mother Box upgraded his suit. The Mother Box can:

Track beings
manipulate matter
Heal the body
Give battle tips
Warn users of danger
absorb magic
absorb/manipulate pretty much all types of energy, including magnetic energy
Absrob souls
Phase and turn users invisible

That, and Orion can win via BFR with Boom Tubes.

There really is no limit to the things a Mother Box can do.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
Of course it's apart of his normal gear. It's how it keeps his rage in check. Or at least it used to. Practically all New Gods own one. Like you or I would own a cell phone.

Check out JLA/Avengers. Iron Man easily pin pointed and I think touched Flash when the Mother Box upgraded his suit. The Mother Box can:

Track beings
manipulate matter
Heal the body
Give battle tips
Warn users of danger
absorb magic
absorb/manipulate pretty much all types of energy, including magnetic energy
Absrob souls
Phase and turn users invisible

That, and Orion can win via BFR with Boom Tubes.

There really is no limit to the things a Mother Box can do.

I have read JLA/Avengers it's just been a while and i would give the win via Bfr but that's the only way i see him doing it.

You don't think the aid of a MB would give Orion the edge? Along with Astro Force that would cripple him? Come one, man.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
You don't think the aid of a MB would give Orion the edge? Along with Astro Force that would cripple him? Come one, man.
yes imo it would even things up but i still think w/o bfr that gladiator would eventually win 6/10.

How would Gladiator stand up to the Astro Force? At full force, it can have universal effects. His battle on the moon had effects on earth and eventually, the fight would be in Orion's favor, since he can heal quickly. Whereas, Gladiator only has strength and speed.