Originally posted by xJLxKing
Are you really claiming that Odin is still the same power house he is when he was during his prime (like more then a decade ago). If so, please post scan of him shaking the multiverse, destroying Galaxies as a result of his battle. Don't bother, you won't find it.As for Marvel, mostly all their character have gotten significantly weaker since 2 decades or more ago; just as DC PC era where characters were stronger.
Either way, it's up to you to prove that the Ones that Sit above are strong as you claim them to be, otherwise, you can't use it as a strong feat, only to proof that RTK is stronger then Odin.
I am bring up PC era to show you that over time, characters have been downgraded in terms of how strong they are especially characters like Thor, Sentry, Superman..etc. Don't you find it weird people use feats for Thor for the 80's and 90's but only a few for the last few years.
Heck, both DC and Marvel both made their characters really strong 15-30 years ago, they have been downgrade.
Now, here is my claim. Proof how strong was RTK? You can't say much except that he is much stronger then Odin. This is the same crap if I were to put Superman Prime (golden guy from 1Million) in this situation. I can't say nothing except that he is stronger then all his descendants.
Are you kidding me? You rambling on about stuff I never said, while trying to save face at the same time. The onus is on YOU to prove The Ones that Sit Above are weaker. That was YOUR claim to which I said prove that is true. To which you said.. Well Odin is weaker than before, thus They are also weaker, thus why Thor was able to accomplish said feat. Its all there for people to say. That was YOUR stance and your argument NONE of which has any proof of such. If so, then please point out to the scan or issue number where this recton or general power downgrading took place. So, that is the first place your totally wrong and off base, and have been so for awhile now.
You then go on to laughable say you want me to prove The Ones who Sit above are strong as they used to be LOL. Are you kidding me? You want me to prove something that hasn't changed or has there ever been a mention of any downgrade. Therefore, its logical to assume they are at standard normal power levels. You on the other hand, want to assume they are weaker, from your faulty premise that all marvel characters in general are weaker. This just makes zero sense.
He is stronger than odin.. You concede that correct? That is all I'm saying and have been saying. Your arguing with me how strong and I never once gave any description or quantified how much stronger. I only said he's stronger than Odin and thus I think he shouldn't have much of an issue with Prime/Monarch. Nothing more, nothing less. It was you who came in here claiming rectons and power downgrades that you can't prove in the least. I even tried to work with you and agreed that odin hasn't been shown to do some of the high end feats he used to. Yet again, when did I claim otherwise. However, even that being the case as I said, that doesn't mean The ONes.. are weaker. That is a slippery slope fallacy and one your trying to use but failing at miserably.