You are using his pheromones, which essentially is nothing but a plot device to begin with, as proof? Spider-Man overcame them and K.O.ed Daken fairly easily. Really seems mystifying as to why Namor doesnt do the same. And why do you insist on claiming Namor is a slow brick? I'd say he isnt much slower than Daken at all, assuming he is in the first place.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Namor fights and defeats people like the Hulk, has held his own with Sentry before, and spanks Iron Man almost regularly. Wolverine has a 100+ page debate as to whether he can beat Spider-Man, which btw he cant. People are so quick to dismiss their most recent fight where Wolverine stabs him in the gut and still gets knocked senseless.
Wolverine taken it to countless heavy hitters, beaten herc who recently beat Namor. Has taken it to namor, tiger shark, thing ect.
Wolverine has beaten Spiderman before.
No one forgetting it. You are. Wolverine dropped Namor ass already and then fought his guard, dropped namor again and Nampor had to hitt wolverine from behind while he was desracted, trying to uses that as evidences for your cases is laughable.
Originally posted by Battlehammerlol, so what you're saying is you really believe daken is gonna win?..........this is way worse than i thought.
It is but im not gunna let some who be miss informed.Daken can end this in one shot, has better combat speed, more skilled and can **** with namor senses making next to impossiable to hit. Namor will have no idea what going on.
i've seen spidey beat daken........
Originally posted by redhotrash
You are using his pheromones, which essentially is nothing but a plot device to begin with, as proof? Spider-Man overcame them and K.O.ed Daken fairly easily.
Spiderman new about the pheramones a head of time unlike namor. Spiderman also was getting owned, he had to rely just on his spidersense to overcome them, something Namor could not due nor could Skar.
Also he eletricuted Daken with a plot device.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Really seems mystifying as to why Namor doesnt do the same.
love you you ignore context of events.
Originally posted by redhotrash
And why do you insist on claiming Namor is a slow brick? I'd say he isnt much slower than Daken at all, assuming he is in the first place.
I not, I said he slower then Daken which becomes a huge problem when daken has pheramone powers, is more skilled and weit for it can end the fight in one hit........
Wolverine has fought Hulk more, yes. Has he ever won? No. Namor regularly beats him. Some people just live Wolverine. Get woken up by their Wolverine alarm clocks, watch 'Wolverine and the X-Men' the cartoon, play with their 15 Wolverine action figures, imagine themselves with Hugh Jackman (in his Wolverine role), then get in their Wolverine pajammas for bed (after which they dream of Wolverine). Is there a more overexposed character? No. Thats partially, if not mostly, why so many people never gave Daken a chance. I think hes a fairly interesting character, but they are so overloaded on Wolverine. Anyway, If Spider-Man, as a class 10, can beat Daken without a ton of effort, I think it'd be odd for Namor not to be able too. Considering hes a class 100+ AND has more fighting experience.
Originally posted by namorsubby
lol, so what you're saying is you really believe daken is gonna win?..........this is way worse than i thought.i've seen spidey beat daken........
yea and ive seen capt beat namor your point? and there was circumstances
Originally posted by redhotrash
Wolverine has fought Hulk more, yes. Has he ever won? No. Namor regularly beats him. partially, if not mostly, why so many people never gave Daken a chance. I think hes a fairly interesting character, but they are so overloaded on Wolverine. Anyway, If Spider-Man, as a class 10, can beat Daken without a ton of effort, I think it'd be odd for Namor not to be able too. Considering hes a class 100+ AND has more fighting experience.
In the water Namor has. Not on land. Yes wolverine has beaten him.
Spiderman is actaully more exposed and it a fact.
Again yoru using faulty abce logic. Spiderman new about the pharemones, Namor does not. Spiderman was getting stomped on, he had to rely souly on his spider sense, namor cant do that, spiderman sued a plot deivces to take Daken out not his punching power.
but keep just repeatedly the same crap and ignore the circumstances and the differences in abilities which allowed spiderman to do what he did that namor does not posses.
Originally posted by redhotrash
You could argue Storm vs Random Joe with a knife saying the guy can end the fight in 1 shot. Punisher could concievably beat a lot of people with 1 shot. Doesnt mean hes going to.
Daken faster then Namor, more skilled, and has the ability to completely **** with Namor perception and he can end this in one attack.
but yea lets just keep on ignoring thoses facts.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Wolverine has fought Hulk more, yes. Has he ever won? No. Namor regularly beats him. Some people just live Wolverine. Get woken up by their Wolverine alarm clocks, watch 'Wolverine and the X-Men' the cartoon, play with their 15 Wolverine action figures, imagine themselves with Hugh Jackman (in his Wolverine role), then get in their Wolverine pajammas for bed (after which they dream of Wolverine). Is there a more overexposed character? No. Thats partially, if not mostly, why so many people never gave Daken a chance. I think hes a fairly interesting character, but they are so overloaded on Wolverine. Anyway, If Spider-Man, as a class 10, can beat Daken without a ton of effort, I think it'd be odd for Namor not to be able too. Considering hes a class 100+ AND has more fighting experience.
pretty sure logan has beaten hulk 😐
also demeaning fellow posters is frowned upon. 🙁
LOL, Spider-Man uses a plot device? The pheromones ARE a plot device! Its like Reed's prep, Batman's utility belt, and Spider-clones all in one. Next month his pheromones are going blind the Sentry and erode Norman's armor.. Anyway, clearly theres no getting through here, so allow me to arrogantly quote myself, as apparently it proves true for Daken now as well.
"The general trend on this board with Wolverine is as follows.
He beats all bricks because hes designed to do so.
He beats all martial artists because hes trained longer and can heal.
He beats all energy manipulators because he can use stealth and agility.
He beats all telepaths because his skull makes him resistant.
He beats speedsters because he only has to hit them once.
He can beat anyone with below cosmic durability because he has claws.
Essentially, Wolverine only loses to Hulk (sometimes), Silver Surfer, and Superman. And those losses of course are by knockout or bfr, none of them can kill him. "
Originally posted by redhotrash
LOL, Spider-Man uses a plot device? The pheromones ARE a plot device! Its like Reed's prep, Batman's utility belt, and Spider-clones all in one.
There a power, just becuase you dislike them does not change this. He has the power to screw with people perception, emotion ect.
so sad, you have no arguements asside from insults and scream plot device becuase you dislike a characters powers, becuase it mean they beat some one you like. oh poor baby
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And in the 2+ years or so Ive been on these boards I can count on 1 hand the number of times you hinted that Wolverine MIGHT lose a fight. I grew up with the guy too, he was at one point my favorite X-man. But you really cant live on his high showings. At some point you have to accept his popularity has caused him to be written above his level, which is a nasty habit of a lot of writers. (see Venom stalemating Juggernaut)
Originally posted by redhotrash
"The general trend on this board with Wolverine is as follows.
He beats all bricks because hes designed to do so.
He beats all martial artists because hes trained longer and can heal.
He beats all energy manipulators because he can use stealth and agility.
He beats all telepaths because his skull makes him resistant.
He beats speedsters because he only has to hit them once.
He can beat anyone with below cosmic durability because he has claws.
Essentially, Wolverine only loses to Hulk (sometimes), Silver Surfer, and Superman. And those losses of course are by knockout or bfr, none of them can kill him. "
hahahahahahahaha your so pathetic.
Originally posted by redhotrash
And in the 2+ years or so Ive been on these boards I can count on 1 hand the number of times you hinted that Wolverine MIGHT lose a fight.
Originally posted by redhotrash
I grew up with the guy too, he was at one point my favorite X-man. But you really cant live on his high showings. At some point you have to accept his popularity has caused him to be written above his level, which is a nasty habit of a lot of writers. (see Venom stalemating Juggernaut)
Written above his ability? his first apearance he took down wendigo, one of his first minis he took out Ba'al, tiger shark, one of his first cross overs he took on Namor, herc ect..........but yea lets ignore all that shall we.......