Favorite Duel Monster

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Originally posted by EvilAngel
I don't see how. It's a pretty obvious strategy to spot. Everyone has Card destruction in their side-decks so it's really not a good idea in my opinion. That and if someone has a Chain Destruction, you have lost the game.

Chain Destruction? You mean this thing?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chain_Destruction

I fail to see how this card hurts exodia decks in any way. What would you even use it on? They never summon exodia pieces.

With Exodia, you aim to win on your very first turn, before your opponent can do anything at all. Generally you either win instantly, or your deck fizzles and you inevitably lose.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Chain Destruction? You mean this thing?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chain_Destruction

I fail to see how this card hurts exodia decks in any way. What would you even use it on? They never summon exodia pieces.

With Exodia, you aim to win on your very first turn, before your opponent can do anything at all. Generally you either win instantly, or your deck fizzles and you inevitably lose.

I believe there are cards to force a summon though.

They're really bad. And they have no way of insuring it's an exodia piece that will be summoned. And even then it only destroys one monster, which can easily be brought back by something like Dark Eruption.

Unless you run a card that removes all cards sent to the graveyard, hand destruction isn't all that effective on Exodia.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Chain Destruction? You mean this thing?

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Chain_Destruction

I fail to see how this card hurts exodia decks in any way. What would you even use it on? They never summon exodia pieces.

With Exodia, you aim to win on your very first turn, before your opponent can do anything at all. Generally you either win instantly, or your deck fizzles and you inevitably lose.

Win on your first turn? You are aware the odds of doing that are ridiculously low right? Even supposing you have 3 of all pieces of exodia, the chances of you have all of them in your first hand is approximately 0.1%. Even with many draw cards and special summonings to your hand you're not likely to get Exodia until turn.... 8-10 and that's assuming your deck is equipped to the full to do this.

Exodia decks are trade offs. Either you have allot of tools to ensure you draw them, which means your defenses are weaker for the rest of the game. Or you don't have all the tools but have a stronger defense while you wait for you to complete your strategy.

The problem with the first kind is a stronger offense will always decimate a weaker defense. That and you'll still have to wait until turn like 9 or 10 to succeed.

The problem with the second type is even if you're defenses are strong it only allow your enemy to know exactly what you're up to, and therefore they can act accordingly.

Chain destruction is particularly effective against exodia decks for two reasons, one is if they play a piece and you hit it with this card, their strategy is gone. Or you hit one of their other cards and they looses probably a third to a quarter of their monster cards because they'll likely be using 3 of the same monsters.

No, you do not understand Exodia. Putting defensive cards in exodia deck is called exodia stall, and it is a laughable strategy at best. You cannot wait 8-10 turns because you will have certainly lost by then. The only way to play exodia is Exodia Turbo, which is pretty much nothing but draw cards and the five exodia pieces and can usually win 1st-3rd turn if it works right.

Defensive decks are not good as the game is currently tilted towards favoring offense due to cards like the already mentioned Judgment Dragon which can destroy everything you have set up. Which is why the only way you can win is by being even faster.

Chain Destruction is horrible against good exodia decks because

1. They would never summon an exodia piece unless they were an absolute fool.
2. If it's destroyed they can easily bring it back to the hand with cards like Dark Eruption and Backup Soldier.
3. They likely only have a few cards they will be summoning. I know the exodia deck i've ran has only had three cards I would normal summon, three copies of royal magical library. And if you hit them, it by no means would destroy the strategy.

I would run something like this:

Monsters: 20

5x Exodia

3x Destiny Hero Plasma
3x Destiny Hero Dogma
2x Destiny Hero Dreadmaster
1x Blue Eyes Toon Dragon

3x Royal Magical Library
3x Broww, Huntsman of the Dark World

Spells: 20

3x Trade In
3x Destiny Draw
2x Allure
3x Hand Destruction
3x Toon Table of Contents
3x Dark World Dealings
3x Upstart Goblin

I'd have to see that in action. As i see it, all i can see it a dreadful self mill deck in the hopes you draw the right cards.

Also i think one card destruction and you've lost with that deck.

I honestly' can't visualise how you work out you win in 1-3 turns. Even with all those draw cards and effects statistically you won't draw exodia until turn 6 on average. By which you'll long be dead by.

I was just able to digg mine up, and this is what i have in it

2 x 7 coloured fish
2 x Harpies Brother
2 x Maha Vailo
2 x La Jinn the Mystical Genie of the Lamp
2 x Gemini Elf
2 x Dark elf

2 x Summoned Skull

3 x Rush Recklessly
3 x Malevolent Nuzzler
3 x Black Pendant
3 x Mystical space typoon
2 x Magic jammer
2 x 7 tools of the bandit
3 x Graceful Charity
2 x Tailor of the Fickle
2 x Trap hole

Raigeki
Monster Reborn
Change of heart

I haven't found my side deck yet...... my room needs a cleaning soon i think.

lol I really dislike tuners, Stardust more so because a dude that comes to the tournaments I go to can summon it out in one turn almost all the time. Which sucks when he goes first, and I don't so I can't get the chance for Black Horn of Heaven.

If you can summon a monster which is stronger than stardust or you can just return them to extra deck, stardust is not a problem. The story will be different if it's assault mode... -___-;

Anyway, my favorite card : Gearfried the Swordmaster, Gilford the Lightning and Buster Blader.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
If you can summon a monster which is stronger than stardust or you can just return them to extra deck, stardust is not a problem. The story will be different if it's assault mode... -___-;

Anyway, my favorite card : Gearfried the Swordmaster, Gilford the Lightning and Buster Blader.

A warrior you must be.

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
A warrior you must be.

Indeed.

Originally posted by Weltall
Exodia and Gate Guardian

I used to base my entire strategy around drawing Exodia out and I'd win every time. I'm like the real world incarnation of Yugi.

Back when I was using an Exodia deck, I drew all 5 pieces on the first turn in one or two duels. I kid you not. Felt gooood!

Originally posted by King Kandy
You got it. Loosing to that things sucks cause it's just like, you pay 1000 to get rid of everything your opponent worked hard for the last 5 turns to get.

I've never actually lost to it, but I have had my whole field destroyed many times due to that card, so I know the feeling >__>. Still, there are a lot of ways I've gotten back at that monster.

Originally posted by Kento
lol I really dislike tuners, Stardust more so because a dude that comes to the tournaments I go to can summon it out in one turn almost all the time. Which sucks when he goes first, and I don't so I can't get the chance for Black Horn of Heaven.

Try using 'Disappear' to remove him from play. Or just be a man, and get yourself a Stardust Dragon to counter his Stardust Dragon 😛.

Have you seen the new Majestic Star Dragon? That guy is bonkers. He can negate any card, and then he'll destroy the opponent's whole damn field.

Originally posted by Kento
He is part of the forbidden list. Unless you play traditional but then nothing is forbidden.

I know, I meant that he should be outlawed in Traditional as well.

Originally posted by Kento
This is true, at least Judgement Dragon stays on the field. But still for some people loosing their hand is a big loss.

Losing every single card you have in your hand or on the field is a huge loss. What's worse, 300 points for each card is dealt only to your opponent.

So yeah, you're right, JD is not as bad as CED. Then again, probably no monster is as bad as CED is. That guy takes 'broken' to a whole new level. Neo-Daedelus has the same effect, but his does not deal damage and depends on a certain Field Spell; so it's not as bad as CED. Oh yeah, Neo-Daedelus survives this card annihilation effect.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Meteor B. Dragon. - First dragon anyone i knew ever got that was just.... well cool. Blue eyes and Red eyes are well they both look kinda funny.

wut?
I agree about Meteor Dragon though from what I remember seeing it when playing Duelist of the Roses (PS2), but how do the other two look funny?

Originally posted by Wei Phoenix
My love for Bakura made me make a Fiend/Dark Deck. I loved it for my Dark Necrofear and random dark creatures that got powered by Mystic Plasma Zone.

I also had a Warrior deck which was pretty beastly and quick to do a lot of damage.

My third deck was a fire deck.

My ideal field would be three Solar Flare Dragons, 1 Ultimate Baseball Kid and either one Raging Flame Sprite or one Fox Fire.


Forgot about Solar Flare Dragon... They're pretty awesome too, needless to say. And I have some fond memories when it came to Dark Necrofear as well. 🙂

As for the discussion about the common/predictable Exodia strategy, I guess that's why you should have Exodia Necross (which you also need the Contract With Exodia magic card) as backup in case it doesn't work out? 😕

Chaos Sorcerer was pretty epic, not only cool, but could defeat any monster bar God cards if it was his turn. Ryu-Ran, just becuase, Koitsu and Aitsu, Summoned Skull, Gearfried the Swordmaster and Relinquished were also cool. And of course its always fun to pull out a Chaos Emperor Dragon.

Ahhh, good times. I remember how once this cock who was staying with us went into a 10-minute rant about how broken CED was after my brother curbstomped his ass with it one time. Made even sweeter by how much he'd been bragging about his 'unbeatable deck' for hours prior.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
What did you used to play to, Wei P?

Were you a rusher, like me? 😛

I favoured Graceful Charity over Pot of Greed.

Thing is for one card, Graceful Charity lets you draw three, sure you have to discard two afterward, but typically you'll be looking for one or two cards in particular when you use a card like that so Graceful Charity gives you a better chance at drawing the card you need. Plus you can have 3 of them in your deck. Since you can then choose any two cards in your hand to discard after drawing i always found it to be so much better.

That is my favorite magic card.

the drawback of graceful charity lessens it imo, if i'm down to like 1-2 cards i rather get a pot of greed on my next turn.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Try using 'Disappear' to remove him from play. Or just be a man, and get yourself a Stardust Dragon to counter his Stardust Dragon 😛.
😛 I have ways to get rid of it, just not when it's summoned the very first turn of the game before I even get to go. Then it's a uphill battle.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Have you seen the new Majestic Star Dragon? That guy is bonkers. He can negate any card, and then he'll destroy the opponent's whole damn field.
Yea, I went to a preview tournament for Stardust Overdrive two weeks ago, and somebody got that card from a pack. I was just glad they couldn't use Stardust because they had to make a deck from Stardust Overdrive cards only.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I know, I meant that he should be outlawed in Traditional as well.
lol Victory Dragon is kinda cheap as well.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Losing every single card you have in your hand or on the field is a huge loss. What's worse, 300 points for each card is dealt only to your opponent.

So yeah, you're right, JD is not as bad as CED. Then again, probably no monster is as bad as CED is. That guy takes 'broken' to a whole new level. Neo-Daedelus has the same effect, but his does not deal damage and depends on a certain Field Spell; so it's not as bad as CED. Oh yeah, Neo-Daedelus survives this card annihilation effect.

Eh, depends on the person. If I play my zombie deck it could be very helpful as I need seven monsters in the graveyard to play a 7000 lvl 1 monster with gravity bind. Just the 300 life points is a big disaster...And wait what about Dark World, wouldn't it work for Dark World monsters to be summoned? It's not a cost.

Yea, I need Neo-Daedelus for my water deck. And Levia-Dragon Daedelus.

Originally posted by Kirikaze Fuuma
If you can summon a monster which is stronger than stardust or you can just return them to extra deck, stardust is not a problem. The story will be different if it's assault mode... -___-;

Anyway, my favorite card : Gearfried the Swordmaster, Gilford the Lightning and Buster Blader.

😮 The thing is, I use low level effect monsters usually, and I don't do summons for the most part. I usually do like man-eater bug, or fissure, or some other destroy card followed by a level 4 1900 or 1600 or whatever to attack. With things like bottomless trap hole, and black horn of heaven, and even trap hole to keep the field clear, and big bang shot to attack their life points even if they go defense route, and playing seven tools of the bandit, and other counter traps for if they try to use something to stop my attack.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
wut?
I agree about Meteor Dragon though from what I remember seeing it when playing Duelist of the Roses (PS2), but how do the other two look funny?

Well, the body of the Blue eyes looks weird. It's neck don't fit with it's body. All in all it looks like a machine more than a dragon.

And Red eyes looks like a lanky lizard. Which just reduces it's overrall coolness factor imo.

Summoned Skull was always my favorite

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Well, the body of the Blue eyes looks weird. It's neck don't fit with it's body. All in all it looks like a machine more than a dragon.

And Red eyes looks like a lanky lizard. Which just reduces it's overrall coolness factor imo.

😆 And I thought I was the only one who thought Red Eyes looked weird.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
I'd have to see that in action. As i see it, all i can see it a dreadful self mill deck in the hopes you draw the right cards.

Also i think one card destruction and you've lost with that deck.

I honestly' can't visualise how you work out you win in 1-3 turns. Even with all those draw cards and effects statistically you won't draw exodia until turn 6 on average. By which you'll long be dead by.


It's not a "self mill deck". There is not one self-milling card in that entire deck. Not even one. It draws until I draw the right card, because if I don't have them yet I just continue drawing.

Yeah, good thing practically nobody uses card destruction... I would have some cards in the side deck for that such as dark factory of mass production.

I don't see how it could possibly take 6 turns to do it. As a matter of fact, let's test it out:

I made the deck and shuffled it, now I draw six cards: 2x RML, 1x D-Draw, 1x Toon Table, 1x Allure.

1st turn: Summon RML, TT into TT into TT into Blue eyes, RML draws a card, Trade In. Trade in discards blue eyes into plasma and plasma. D-draw one plasma into D-draw and plasma. D-draw a second plasma into left leg and dreadmaster. RML draws a card, dark world dealings. Play allure, drawing another DWD and trade in, removing dreadmaster. Trade in plasma, drawing DWD and broww. Play DWD, drawing me left leg, discarding broww. Broww draws me another card, right arm. RML draws a card, Broww. Play DWD, drawing dogma, discarding broww. Broww draws a card, trade in. Trade in on dogma draws Broww and Hand destruction. I play DWD, drawing dreadmaster and discarding broww. Broww draws me hand destruction. RML draws me left arm.

At this point, my hand contains all five exodia pieces, 2x Hand destruction, dreadmaster, and royal magical library. I won on the first turn.

Originally posted by EvilAngel
Well, the body of the Blue eyes looks weird. It's neck don't fit with it's body. All in all it looks like a machine more than a dragon.

And Red eyes looks like a lanky lizard. Which just reduces it's overrall coolness factor imo.


😂 Fair enough I guess.

I suppose I agree about Blue-Eyes's neck. Dunno about it looking like a machine though, but that's definitely how I think when it comes to the Winged Dragon of Ra. >_>

And I concur about Red-Eyes when it came to the first card, but this version fixed that and made him look much cooler IMO.

Still, Red-Eyes Darkness Dragon is where it's at. Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon is all right too I guess.

Was there ever a Red-Eyes Ultimate Dragon like there was for Blue-Eyes? I'm guessing not. Think I saw one before, but I believe it was fan-made.

As per the thread topic, another favorite of mine would be the Fang of Critias (from Waking the Dragons arc) if that counts. That monster was easily cooler than the Eye of Timaeus or Claw of Hermos...
Celtic Guardian has also been an all-time fav. 😄

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Was there ever a Red-Eyes Ultimate Dragon like there was for Blue-Eyes? I'm guessing not. Think I saw one before, but I believe it was fan-made.

No, but there's a card that sounds like a combo of the metal and darkness versions...