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psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ra's effects are weird tbh, but yeah, he's broken. Though I don't think he's above the other two. That hierarchy thing was just a plot point so that Yami Marik had an advantage as opposed to being at a great disadvantage; since he was the villain and everything.

i think it was supposedly better since it can be summoned to the field in phoenix mode.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
I officially hate Gladiator Beast now. lol

They are awesome. They require more skill than any other highly-competitive decktype... like the opposite of (ugh) lightsworns. I love using them so much... even more than blackwings.

Of course, my heart will always belong to plants.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by King Kandy
They are awesome. They require more skill than any other highly-competitive decktype... like the opposite of (ugh) lightsworns. I love using them so much... even more than blackwings.
Of course, my heart will always belong to plants.

lol Today was like the first day I ever played a Gladiator Beast deck, and I was just like '..........' as the guy kept summoning thing after thing. I'd have a high defense face down, he'd attack, then get hit for damage, then trade out for one that destroyed monsters when special summoned, and it was just a total beat down.

Really plants? That's something I never seen used. I know somebody is making an insect deck, which is also something I haven't seen anybody play.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

insects usually have special summoning effects.

pinch hopper = cheap

anteatereatingant is such a badass name, almost as cool as gogiga gagagigo

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by psycho gundam
ianteatereatingant is such a badass name,

I like using that card, just in a normal deck.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
almost as cool as gogiga gagagigo

lol Yea, that's just a mouthful that I have never even began to try saying, though I did use it today when a guy was complaining how his deck sucks because his friend built it, and gave him five dollars to play it but it had very few monsters, and I worked it just fine. Even beating some girl's dragon deck.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
lol Today was like the first day I ever played a Gladiator Beast deck, and I was just like '..........' as the guy kept summoning thing after thing. I'd have a high defense face down, he'd attack, then get hit for damage, then trade out for one that destroyed monsters when special summoned, and it was just a total beat down.
Really plants? That's something I never seen used. I know somebody is making an insect deck, which is also something I haven't seen anybody play.

Yeah you can't play a defensive game vs. GBs, you have to be an even more aggressive and faster player than they are. Because if you ever allow them to get an attack in, everything's going to work for them. But the downside is, they're really easy to side against.

Plants are awesome. Check out lonefire blossom, he's like the most broken support ever.

Weltall Restricted

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=519920&from=thread&pagenumber=5#post12345511

Guys, this boy ArtificialGlory's talking shit about our favorite game. We need to all team up and do something about it.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Weltall
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=519920&from=thread&pagenumber=5#post12345511
Guys, this boy ArtificialGlory's talking shit about our favorite game. We need to all team up and do something about it.

People have their own opinion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah you can't play a defensive game vs. GBs, you have to be an even more aggressive and faster player than they are. Because if you ever allow them to get an attack in, everything's going to work for them. But the downside is, they're really easy to side against.
Plants are awesome. Check out lonefire blossom, he's like the most broken support ever.

Figured that out the hard way lol. Yea I should probably run a side deck. But it's hard enough to just choose 40 cards for me, I'm not sure I could choose which to replace with one of the side deck cards quickly. lol

It is, but not as much as Substitoad.

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
Figured that out the hard way lol. Yea I should probably run a side deck. But it's hard enough to just choose 40 cards for me, I'm not sure I could choose which to replace with one of the side deck cards quickly. lol
It is, but not as much as Substitoad.

Mirror of Oaths, GB Hunter, Royal Oppression and Skill Drain are all capable of single-handedly destroying a GB deck... particularly the latter two.

It's worse. Substitoad is tough, but he can't bring out monstrosities like this:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gigaplant

or even this:

http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tytannial,_Princess_of_Camellias

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by King Kandy
Mirror of Oaths, GB Hunter, Royal Oppression and Skill Drain are all capable of single-handedly destroying a GB deck... particularly the latter two.
It's worse. Substitoad is tough, but he can't bring out monstrosities like this:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Gigaplant
or even this:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Tytannial,_Princess_of_Camellias

Yea, but I don't run any of those cards. Skill Drain destroys me completely also in most decks so.

They each have their own thing. One gets high attack monsters out quickly, the other swarms the field quicker.

Demonic Phoenix Senior Member

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i think it was supposedly better since it can be summoned to the field in phoenix mode.

Didn't Marik say that Slifer's and Obelisk's effects would not work on Ra as he was 'above' them?

EDIT: That hierarchy thing was in the manga only.

Demonic Phoenix Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
So, Red Eyes still needs like what 8 forms? lol

Damn right it does 😛.

Originally posted by Kento
Your just jealous.

LIES!

Originally posted by Kento
Well not the legal one. It can't attack after it clears the field, and deals no damage for clearing it. But it's still got the whole, nothing can destroy it except a higher attack.
Paying life points to make Ra even stronger, plus already being a stronger Maju Garzette or whatever right there I think makes it stronger, and then if it keeps it's phoenix mode (which I doubt) then even more so. I mean Obelisk I've always considered the weaker because of it's attack is set at 4000, and it's effect needs other things. Slifer just depends on the hand, and Ra has all the abilities it has. Add to the fact they can't be destroyed by effect, traps, or magic cards, and well they all are broken just to higher degrees.

Of course not. Obelisk wouldn't be released unless it were toned down. If the other two are released, they'll be toned down as well.

Slifer will probably lose his second mouth effect, while having his ATK depend upon the number of cards in the hand. Or he'll keep the second mouth effect and have 4000 ATK/DEF 😛.
Ra will lose the whole Phoenix Mode thing, along with his Maju Garzette ability. IMO, he should start off at 4000 ATK/DEF, just like Hamon. His unique ability will allow him to increase his ATK/DEF by how many LP the controller gives up (for one turn 😛).

Obelisk can destroy all monsters AND deal 4000/Infinite damage. Imo, that's better (in a way) than the Ra Phoenix mode ability bro 😛.
Slifer's strength is also its weakness though. More often than not, players will have less than 4 cards anyway. Besides, ATK isn't everything these days.
Ra is Ra 😛. Without Phoenix mode, it's lesser than the other two in terms of powerful effects, but potentially better in ATK.

Demonic Phoenix Senior Member

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime

If Joey had all the alternate forms of REBD, I have zero doubt that he would whoop Kaiba's ass somehow (in addition to Gilford the Lightening and his other strong cards) if they actually had a 3rd duel, unless he were to fall for the Crush Card thing again. D:

He'd whoop Yugi too, though in GX times, they've (K&Y) have probably gotten better cards and strats so it's up to speculation I guess.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Heh. I forgot Slifer even had wings. Never really paid attention to those, but yeah. It was the overall design of his head and everything that made me like him most. Plus, red being my favorite color.
While the phoenix mode is cool, Ra itself is sort of overrated IMO, as a character/monster in general.

Ahh right, Blue is my favorite color, with Red being second. Since I like Phoenixes (no duh!), I'm pretty much torn between all three 😛. Though yeah, Obelisk is my favorite, followed by Ra's Phoenix form and Slifer.

True. If they'd made Ra have only the Phoenix form, it would have been better imo.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Obelisk's cool too, but ironically, I thought he looked best when he was under the influence of the Orichalcos, with that green aura surrounding him (also increasing his attack points by 500, making him as strong as Blue-Eyes Ultimate Dragon).
YouTube video
Makes me wish they had shown an Orichalcos version of Slifer and Ra too (or Phoenix Ra + Orichalcos 😆 ), but oh well. Orichalcos Obelisk seemed to give the person using him quite a headache anyway. 😛

To each his own.

Phoenix Ra would nevar succumb to the likes of the Orichalcos 😛. Ra and Slifer would though.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
I completely agree about the Sacred Beasts on the other hand (not liking Hamon's design either), but that goes without saying.

True enough. Uria for the most part looked better than Slifer imo 😛, except for the mouth of course. A mouth within a mouth 😘.

Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
The laid-back personality made me not like him as much ermm, but to each his own.

I'm laid-back myself, and I found his laid-back personality to be quite cool, so yeah 😛

King Kandy Senior Member

Originally posted by Kento
Yea, but I don't run any of those cards. Skill Drain destroys me completely also in most decks so.
They each have their own thing. One gets high attack monsters out quickly, the other swarms the field quicker.

MY point is, maybe you should be running them in the side deck.

I don't see how substitoad swarms the field faster. They have the same effect except Substitoad has the "not destroyed by battle" part, and isn't once per turn. But that doesn't matter in terms of actually getting more monsters on the field.

What's your deck nowadays? I could make some suggestions if I have a list.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Damn right it does 😛.

They better get to work on poor old Red Eyes then. lol And not make any more Blue Eyes.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
LIES!
😆

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Of course not. Obelisk wouldn't be released unless it were toned down. If the other two are released, they'll be toned down as well.
Slifer will probably lose his second mouth effect, while having his ATK depend upon the number of cards in the hand. Or he'll keep the second mouth effect and have 4000 ATK/DEF 😛.
Ra will lose the whole Phoenix Mode thing, along with his Maju Garzette ability. IMO, he should start off at 4000 ATK/DEF, just like Hamon. His unique ability will allow him to increase his ATK/DEF by how many LP the controller gives up (for one turn 😛).
Obelisk can destroy all monsters AND deal 4000/Infinite damage. Imo, that's better (in a way) than the Ra Phoenix mode ability bro 😛.
Slifer's strength is also its weakness though. More often than not, players will have less than 4 cards anyway. Besides, ATK isn't everything these days.
Ra is Ra 😛. Without Phoenix mode, it's lesser than the other two in terms of powerful effects, but potentially better in ATK.

lol True this I guess. Though I think the fact that Maju Garzette, and Muka Muka are already cards Slifer and Ra will keep those effects. Would probably loose the rest. And with the god cards attack really is everything since they are not affected by anything. lol

Originally posted by King Kandy
MY point is, maybe you should be running them in the side deck.
I don't see how substitoad swarms the field faster. They have the same effect except Substitoad has the "not destroyed by battle" part, and isn't once per turn. But that doesn't matter in terms of actually getting more monsters on the field.
What's your deck nowadays? I could make some suggestions if I have a list.

Side decking it would be pointless on like just about any of my decks though except perhaps one. All my cards are based around low level effect monsters usually.

With scapegoat you can summon four frogs at once at most. And have three Unifrogs with Wetlands on the field, and even just summon a beezle frog you can destroy three magic/trap cards and deal 4800 direct damage in one turn if they have a monster. 6900 plus whatever substitoad is if you can get them without any monster or any magic/traps to stop attacks.

Frog deck?

Fusion - D.3.S Frog

Monsters
Nightmare Penguin
2 Star Boy
2 Alantean Pikeman
3 Des Frog
3 T.A.D.P.O.L.E.
3 Beezle Frog
1 Dupe Frog
3 Unifrog
Familiar Possessed - Eria
Psychic Kappa
Dark Mimic LV1
Barrier Statue Of The Torrent
Gilasaurus
Treeborn Frog
Ooguchi

Magic
2 Wetlands
Scapegoat
Field Barrier
Terraforming
Swords of Revealing Light
Polymerization
Des Croaking
Level Limit - Area B
Fissure
Mystical Space Typhoon
Mage Power
Axe Of Despair

Traps
Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Sakuretsu Armor
Xing Zhen Hu
Call Of The Haunted

King Kandy Senior Member

Well I can definitely see why you would have lost to GBs then. I'll give it a second lookover later and suggest some changes.

Kento The last Hokage

lol That's not the one that lost to GB. That was some new deck I built that just involved mostly lvl 1-2 monsters than can attack directly and gravity bind/level limit area b

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

Originally posted by Kento

Frog deck?
Fusion - D.3.S Frog
Monsters
Nightmare Penguin
2 Star Boy
2 Alantean Pikeman
3 Des Frog
3 T.A.D.P.O.L.E.
3 Beezle Frog
1 Dupe Frog
3 Unifrog
Familiar Possessed - Eria
Psychic Kappa
Dark Mimic LV1
Barrier Statue Of The Torrent
Gilasaurus
Treeborn Frog
Ooguchi
Magic
2 Wetlands
Scapegoat
Field Barrier
Terraforming
Swords of Revealing Light
Polymerization
Des Croaking
Level Limit - Area B
Fissure
Mystical Space Typhoon
Mage Power
Axe Of Despair
Traps
Trap Hole
Bottomless Trap Hole
Sakuretsu Armor
Xing Zhen Hu
Call Of The Haunted

makes sense, but i'd put a gravity bind in there.

Kento The last Hokage

Originally posted by psycho gundam
makes sense, but i'd put a gravity bind in there.

🙁 The only two gravity binds I have are in my Zombie Deck, and my deck that has Raging Flame Sprite and other low level attack directly monsters. I really need to see if I can find another one at the card place the tournaments take place

Ridley_Prime Smug icon slayer

Originally posted by Kento
Yea, I mean I guess depending on the deck and player it may be easy enough to get three cards to sacrifice but eh tributing isn't my style. lol

Yeah. It's not that many people's style anymore from what I've seen (nowadays), so the feeling's mutual. 😛

Originally posted by Kento
You just became ten times cooler. 😆

woot So I guess that's your favorite color too then huh? Nice. 👆

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
He'd whoop Yugi too, though in GX times, they've (K&Y) have probably gotten better cards and strats so it's up to speculation I guess.

Yeah. True that..

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Ahh right, Blue is my favorite color, with Red being second. Since I like Phoenixes (no duh!), I'm pretty much torn between all three. Though yeah, Obelisk is my favorite, followed by Ra's Phoenix form and Slifer.
True. If they'd made Ra have only the Phoenix form, it would have been better imo.

Fair 'nuff.

And yeah, I agree about Ra. To be honest, he easily looks to be the most bland out of the three when you put Phoenix mode aside. That's why I agree that he should've had Phoenix mode only.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
To each his own.
Phoenix Ra would nevar succumb to the likes of the Orichalcos 😛. Ra and Slifer would though.

Eh, I guess you got a point there. I was mainly speaking in terms of what-if anyhow.

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
True enough. Uria for the most part looked better than Slifer imo 😛, except for the mouth of course. A mouth within a mouth 😘.

The mouth within a mouth looked rather natural on Slifer though. Dunno how to explain it.. But while on the subject of Slifer, I also like how he selflessly used himself as a shield to protect the people/villagers/whatever from Bakura's shadow monster before Zorc came and all that. The thing could hardly take it. 🙁

Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
I'm laid-back myself, and I found his laid-back personality to be quite cool, so yeah 😛

lol Guess that explains it.