Originally posted by h1a8
Well it is proven on panel that War Hulk became stronger than WWH since he stopped Juggs and WWH didn't. The initial War Hulk was weaker than WWH but after he amped to the level to stop Juggs he became stronger than WWH.So War Hulk wins.
I don't think it was strength that allowed War Hulk to stop Juggernaut.
Originally posted by quanchi112
How aren't they impressive? One actually stopped Juggernaut's forward momentum and proceeded to stomp him. The other went on a rampage while giving marvel earth time to prep against him. He outsmarted the one character who would have beaten him, Strange.
WWHulk would kill War Hulk.
Stopping Juggernaut is not a measuring stick. It was the energy around War Hulk that let him stop Juggernaut. Besides that, War Hulk was kinda not impressive. He didn't have Juggernaut anywhere any other Hulk couldn't have got him to, except stopping him. Hulk's had Juggernaut on the ground before. He's had him on the ropes before. As far as you can get Cain on the ropes. You can't go much further when you're fighting a guy that can't be killed or KO'd. WWHulk went ahead and beat everyone up. PIS or not, they made it look easy for WWHulk. And furthermore, even the writer of the Juggernaut/WWHulk fight said he wanted it to be unclear. That's why it is unclear. Juggernaut made his big return. Of course he gets a good showing, but he's done worse against lesser Hulk's, so the WWHulk showing means jack sh*t. He pushed WWHulk back? BFD. That's his power. Unstoppable momentum. But punch for punch, nothing was decided in the slightest. Cain got in one hit more than Hulk. BFD. It was one punch. Like I said, he's done worse against lesser Hulk's, so who gives a sh*t if he started off better on the night. It's not an indication of how it would've gone, because it's not like Hulk was battered and on his knees. They traded blows, and Cain just got the last one before the lock-up. Who cares?
WWHulk taps into World Breaker(genuine strength) and rips War Hulk a new a**hole.
Originally posted by Master Court
WWHulk would kill War Hulk.Stopping Juggernaut is not a measuring stick. It was the energy around War Hulk that let him stop Juggernaut. Besides that, War Hulk was kinda not impressive. He didn't have Juggernaut anywhere any other Hulk couldn't have got him to, except stopping him. Hulk's had Juggernaut on the ground before. He's had him on the ropes before. As far as you can get Cain on the ropes. You can't go much further when you're fighting a guy that can't be killed or KO'd. WWHulk went ahead and beat everyone up. PIS or not, they made it look easy for WWHulk. And furthermore, even the writer of the Juggernaut/WWHulk fight said he wanted it to be unclear. That's why it is unclear. Juggernaut made his big return. Of course he gets a good showing, but he's done worse against lesser Hulk's, so the WWHulk showing means jack sh*t. He pushed WWHulk back? BFD. That's his power. Unstoppable momentum. But punch for punch, nothing was decided in the slightest. Cain got in one hit more than Hulk. BFD. It was one punch. Like I said, he's done worse against lesser Hulk's, so who gives a sh*t if he started off better on the night. It's not an indication of how it would've gone, because it's not like Hulk was battered and on his knees. They traded blows, and Cain just got the last one before the lock-up. Who cares?
WWHulk taps into World Breaker(genuine strength) and rips War Hulk a new a**hole.
Oh this is bull shit.
The only time Juggernaut has done worse than against WWH was against War Hulk himself. Juggs is as strong as he wants to be so there is no room to discredit his performance against WWH as meaning 'jack shit'. And unfortunately if the intention was for the encounter between WWH and Juggs to be 'unclear', it was anything but that.
Juggs got in 'one more hit'? What are you talking about? Juggernaut made WWH spit out blood on the first shot to his jaw, he stomped WWH's head into the ground, and he headbutted him in the gut. In between all that WWH got in one shot total (a double hammerfist uppercut or whatever the hell you want to call it) and it barely even budged Juggernaut from where he was standing.
Further more, Juggs wasn't pushing Hulk back with his unstoppable power. Christos Gage himself said it was purely a test of strength.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
you must have missed the last issue of world war hulk.
I have them all. You must mean World Breaker. Well maybe you have a point there but aren't we assuming normal WWH?
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
I don't think it was strength that allowed War Hulk to stop Juggernaut.
Yes it was. It was just his strength combined with the energies of the tech. Or it was the tech amping his strength faster.
Originally posted by CosmicComethe dented juggernaut's helmet, but seriously, hulk didn't give a shit about juggernaut, and unlike herculese he knows how to deal with an opponent he doesn't want to fight.
Oh this is bull shit.The only time Juggernaut has done worse than against WWH was against War Hulk himself. Juggs is as strong as he wants to be so there is no room to discredit his performance against WWH as meaning 'jack shit'. And unfortunately if the intention was for the encounter between WWH and Juggs to be 'unclear', it was anything but that.
Juggs got in 'one more hit'? What are you talking about? Juggernaut made WWH spit out blood on the first shot to his jaw, he stomped WWH's head into the ground, and he headbutted him in the gut. In between all that WWH got in one shot total (a double hammerfist uppercut or whatever the hell you want to call it) and it barely even budged Juggernaut from where he was standing.
Further more, Juggs wasn't pushing Hulk back with his unstoppable power. Christos Gage himself said it was purely a test of strength.
they should make a what if? cain marko was part of the illuminati (he probably just helped build the rocket or something)
Hulk gave more than a shit. He was declaring Cain's imminent death at one moment, then upon realizing he can't do it, the BFR option conveniently presented itself with Charles' shouting.
I'm sure Pak or whoever else was pushing as hard as possible for Juggs to be stopped in the story, and that could not happen.
Dented helmet? Don't remember any mention of that. The art itself just looked like the helmet was meant to have a bit of a contour on the sides of the face instead of being round all over.
Still, even if it was dented, not a big deal. Cain wasn't hurt and he is more durable than his helmet.
Originally posted by h1a8
IMO, I don't think World Breaker Hulk could have done anything to Juggernaut.To be honest. World Breaker Hulk has no feats other than his steps. Which is BS since he only weighes a little more than a ton. So to me that feat isn't a good measuring stick.
You do realise that when WWH went World Breaker, it was as a result of his anger amping his strength to much higher level than ever before. He was so strong that a casual movement, like a footstep caused untold damage. This had nothing to do with Hulk's mass, which (unlike in the 2003 movie) doesn't increase with his strength.
Anyway WWH for the win.