Originally posted by Zeuodin
Actually Diana has Shoulder'd Paradise Island for Herakles. This is Post crisis. She's carried away an asteroid that would have destroyed the planet, without breaking a sweat.Wonder Woman has close fights with Cheetah because Cheetah has been trained by zoom to be faster and she has magical claws that can go thru nearly any substance. Imagine wolverine with near light speed. yeah.
She was wrecked by bizarro in an else worlds tale.
Thor was knocked out by a bullet before. So don't bring up bullets.
Diana has one shotted the indestructible Captain Atom.
She's beaten an enraged Daxamite (Before Her strength upgrade)
She's beaten angels, a white martian, and handed Super Woman her ass.Wonder Woman would beat Pretty much any top tiers ass if they weren't allowed to use any fancy powers. And with her blunt force durability, ( She's taken Shots from Zeus, Doomsday, Super clone Doomsday, Genocide, Superman, Captain Marvel, Oblivion, etc) She won't go down in a hand to hand fight easily if at all.
The best feats here are the white martian, daxamite and Cap atom. None are thor level physically. J'onn has beat 2-3 white martians at once (forget which). Superman has beat 3 daxamites at once. Cap atom isnt superman level physically except for in worldstorm with the void (and even that is debatable), hell he's not J'onn level.
Wonderwoman has already shown that she wont "beat pretty much any top tiers ass if they werent allowed to use any fancy powers". Fight's with J'onn and superman have shown her to be well below their level, hell i think J'onn 1 shot her.
Oh and are you trying to saying taking a ht from any of those is like taking hits from surtur or celestials???
Originally posted by khazra
The best feats here are the white martian, daxamite and Cap atom. None are thor level physically. J'onn has beat 2-3 white martians at once (forget which). Superman has beat 3 daxamites at once. Cap atom isnt superman level physically except for in worldstorm with the void (and even that is debatable), hell he's not J'onn level.Wonderwoman has already shown that she wont "beat pretty much any top tiers ass if they werent allowed to use any fancy powers". Fight's with J'onn and superman have shown her to be well below their level, hell i think J'onn 1 shot her.
Oh and are you trying to saying taking a ht from any of those is like taking hits from surtur or celestials???
iirc, superman only beat the daxamites when they were posioned by lead.
still think superman > her, though.
Originally posted by khazra
The best feats here are the white martian, daxamite and Cap atom. None are thor level physically. J'onn has beat 2-3 white martians at once (forget which). Superman has beat 3 daxamites at once. Cap atom isnt superman level physically except for in worldstorm with the void (and even that is debatable), hell he's not J'onn level.Wonderwoman has already shown that she wont "beat pretty much any top tiers ass if they werent allowed to use any fancy powers". Fight's with J'onn and superman have shown her to be well below their level, hell i think J'onn 1 shot her.
Oh and are you trying to saying taking a ht from any of those is like taking hits from surtur or celestials???
Originally posted by -Pr-
i disagree.
Originally posted by Zeuodinor it could be just because of the nature of comics...
To say he hits harder than her or that much harder than her would mean Superman is an idiot who cannot fight well. If he's that much stronger than her, and hits that much harder, he should never have any problems completely just dominating her without use of Heat vision, Superbreath, speed, etc. He has to use all of his powers at optimal levels to get the better of her.
superman (and many heroes ie thor, surfer) often 'struggle' with beings that they should have ease defeating
Originally posted by Starscream M
or it could be just because of the nature of comics...superman (and many heroes ie thor, surfer) often 'struggle' with beings that they should have ease defeating
Originally posted by Zeuodin
To say he hits harder than her or that much harder than her would mean Superman is an idiot who cannot fight well. If he's that much stronger than her, and hits that much harder, he should never have any problems completely just dominating her without use of Heat vision, Superbreath, speed, etc. He has to use all of his powers at optimal levels to get the better of her.
if you think he's an idiot that can't fight well, then you don't know Superman comics.
and he's manhandled her before without having to use any of his other powers.