Originally posted by JakeTheBankOne they can win here. For the most part the quintessence are hyped imo. They have great reps but lack the feats of Thanos and Odin for the most part.
I wouldn't put every single member of the Quintessence above Odin. That's just crazy and baseless. That being said, Thanos and Odin are in for a dire fight.
Zeus and Ganthet are probably the weakest guys in the quintessence and one has part of the godwave (Zeus) and the other has near inexhaustable Oan energy, I'd say they're both above Thanos and a little below Odin.
Phantom Stranger is a powerful archangel, above everyone here.
Highfather has shown he can resist the full godwave with his energy manip as well as merge the powers of several skyfather beings into one, he also created the Celestial City with his own power as well as Takion of the Source. He has relatively powerful shields.
Shazam, arguably the most powerful lord of order, and can channel the immense magic from the Rock of Eternity.
Originally posted by AllanklesPs was insignificant when stacked up against Spectre. twice the Spectre has treated him even less than someone like Nabu or Shazam. Saying he's above everyone when he has nothing to show for it is incorrect as they come.
Zeus and Ganthet are probably the weakest guys in the quintessence and one has part of the godwave (Zeus) and the other has near inexhaustable Oan energy, I'd say they're both above Thanos and a little below Odin.Phantom Stranger is a powerful archangel, above everyone here.
Highfather has shown he can resist the full godwave with his energy manip as well as merge the powers of several skyfather beings into one, he also created the Celestial City with his own power as well as Takion of the Source. He has relatively powerful shields.
Shazam, arguably the most powerful lord of order, and can channel the immense magic from the Rock of Eternity.
Izaya has shown to be less than darkseid and most of the feats you tak about prove nothing combat wise.
Yes, but Shazam isn't as formidable off his rock as he is on it.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ps was insignificant when stacked up against Spectre.
Spectre and PS are both archangels. No one here is on the level of the Spectre anyway, and PS operates under restrictions as well.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Izaya has shown to be less than darkseid and most of the feats you tak about prove nothing combat wise.
Highfather has only lost once to DS and that was Pre Crisis. Other times he shields himself quite well with the Alpha Force. In fact he never gets touched.
Also his ability to Merge different entities into one being is quite useful in combat.
The problem with PS is that he is a relative 'deus ex machina', and restricted to engage in direct combat, unless in extreme dire situations.
He was given his freedom by The Voice once, only to refuse the offer.
Silly move on his part, imo. He has the potential to be on the same level as The Spectre minus the restrictions.
Then again, comics would be bland if he becomes unbeatable.
Odin against Izaya and Zeus would be an interesting fight to see.
I see Odin edging them out.
Originally posted by AllanklesAgain, Shazam was a threat and so was Nabu. All you do is post words that carry no meaning outside the ridiculous hyperbolic statement which means nothing at face value.
Spectre and PS are both archangels. No one here is on the level of the Spectre anyway, and PS operates under restrictions as well.Highfather has only lost once to DS and that was Pre Crisis. Other times he shields himself quite well with the Alpha Force. In fact he never gets touched.
Also his ability to Merge different entities into one being is quite useful in combat.
Again, Izaya has never defeated Darkseid while Superman and DD have bested Darkseid. Not hard to figure out here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, Shazam was a threat and so was Nabu. All you do is post words that carry no meaning outside the ridiculous hyperbolic statement which means nothing at face value.
PS isn't allowed to directly interfere in events. Otherwise he's an archangel with immense magical power. It's not about hyperbole, it's about the level the character operates on. The Presence doesn't allow him to interfere, that's his thing.
Monitors don't fight but we know their level. It's the same with Archangels, they are at the top of the food chain in the Pax Dei.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, Izaya has never defeated Darkseid while Superman and DD have bested Darkseid. Not hard to figure out here.
Repeating something doesn't make it right. Highfather has lost once to DS, and that was in the 70's.
You're making it out like he's been defeated several times, when it's only happened once. Also DS is the most powerful god in DC, with the mastery of the most frightening power in the lore of the gods, the Omega Force. You're not even trying to make a credible argument.
Highfather's a mastermind, a hands-off god with tremendous matter and energy manipulation via the Alpha Force. With him on the team he can boost the power of his team mates, or create an amalgm entity with scary power.
Originally posted by AllanklesWe saw him interfere against the Spectre. Again, keep ignoring the times he'd been shown to be minor annoyance against the Spectre.
PS isn't allowed to directly interfere in events. Otherwise he's an archangel with immense magical power. It's not about hyperbole, it's about the level the character operates on. The Presence doesn't allow him to interfere, that's his thing.Monitors don't fight but we know their level. It's the same with Archangels, they are at the top of the food chain in the Pax Dei.
Repeating something doesn't make it right. Highfather has lost once to DS, and that was in the 70's.
You're making it out like he's been defeated several times, when it's only happened once. Also DS is the most powerful god in DC, with the mastery of the most frightening power in the lore of the gods, the Omega Force. You're not even trying to make a credible argument.
Highfather's a mastermind, a hands-off god with tremendous matter and energy manipulation via the Alpha Force. With him on the team he can boost the power of his team mates, or create an amalgm entity with scary power.
Again, DD trashed DD, Raker took him to school, and Superman submitted him.
Superman also beat ds in fc.
Originally posted by Endless MikeNone of the quintessence are at Odin's level let alone Thanos.
5 Skyfathers vs. One Skyfather and 1 sub-Skyfather? I'll go with the Quintessence
Originally posted by quanchi112
We saw him interfere against the Spectre. Again, keep ignoring the times he'd been shown to be minor annoyance against the Spectre.Again, DD trashed DD, Raker took him to school, and Superman submitted him.
Superman also beat ds in fc. None of the quintessence are at Odin's level let alone Thanos.
Originally posted by -Pr-Yes, he easily defeated him. He also needed to reach in in order to get enough power to kill Nabu through goading. There's also another confrontation between the two which backs up he's nothing compared to the Spectre. I can post scans if you don't believe me.
eh, no. Spectre transmuted PS because he couldn't kill him. That's not a minor annoyance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he easily defeated him. He also needed to reach in in order to get enough power to kill Nabu through goading. There's also another confrontation between the two which backs up he's nothing compared to the Spectre. I can post scans if you don't believe me.
It was stated that the PS was one of the Spectre's first priorities and he took the fight seriously, the gulf in power wasn't as massive as you imply.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he easily defeated him. He also needed to reach in in order to get enough power to kill Nabu through goading. There's also another confrontation between the two which backs up he's nothing compared to the Spectre. I can post scans if you don't believe me.
he's not god's vengeance. spectre is. how can you compare the two when one is actively allowed to interfere in earthly affairs while the other isn't?
Originally posted by -Pr-Ps has interfered plenty of times. He was interfering in the scans right here. Ps has done nothing to warrant any type of respect along the likes of Thanos or Odin.
he's not god's vengeance. spectre is. how can you compare the two when one is actively allowed to interfere in earthly affairs while the other isn't?
Being easily defeated by the Spectre and held at bay while the bn Spectre is fighting off the Spectre inside him only further slams it home.
You don't call someone an insect and casually toss them aside like bugs if they are a threat to you.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/PhantomStranger42009.jpg
Originally posted by quanchi112
Ps has interfered plenty of times. He was interfering in the scans right here. Ps has done nothing to warrant any type of respect along the likes of Thanos or Odin.Being easily defeated by the Spectre and held at bay while the bn Spectre is fighting off the Spectre inside him only further slams it home.
You don't call someone an insect and casually toss them aside like bugs if they are a threat to you.
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa41/quanchi112/PhantomStranger42009.jpg
