Atum (demon form) vs Shuma Gorath

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
Why don't you bring me evidence that SG is actual Elders and not really really old mystical beings that you label as "Elder" gods.

He would have needed time to beat SG and in that time SG would have siphoned off some of SN's power. Why don't you go back to the book and look it up cause I got mine right in front of me. And SG didn't have to be equal to SN to beat Atum. Atum has trouble with lowly Earth pantheon gods he isn't beating SG.

It didn't say he needed time or that Shuma would put up any sort of fight. He just said the moment he attack, Shuma would begin to absorb some of the magic he's carefully accumulated and he wanted to avoid that.

Why don't you show me what makes you think he's so much greater than an Elder God. Remember, no where does it say Atum can't eat a God/Demon who's more powerful than an Elder God.

Originally posted by Knowsbleed33
It didn't say he needed time or that Shuma would put up any sort of fight. He just said the moment he attack, Shuma would begin to absorb some of the magic he's carefully accumulated and he wanted to avoid that.

Why don't you show me what makes you think he's so much greater than an Elder God. Remember, no where does it say Atum can't eat a God/Demon who's more powerful than an Elder God.

That by your position, Atum can eat the Sise-Neg too right? SG became his universal. His presence in the 616 would wreck galaxies so Strange had to burn off that power. He made Nightmare an unwilling agent of his as well and killed the former Sorcerer Supreme. What has any Elder God done that is comparable?

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
That by your position, Atum can eat the Sise-Neg too right? SG became his universal. His presence in the 616 would wreck galaxies so Strange had to burn off that power. He made Nightmare an unwilling agent of his as well and killed the former Sorcerer Supreme. What has any Elder God done that is comparable?

second yes atum can eat mystical beings greater than him thats his power

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
second yes atum can eat mystical beings greater than him thats his power

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
second yes atum can eat mystical beings greater than him thats his power

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
firstly
elder gods>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sourceror supremes.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Vishanti

Originally posted by galactusischere
No he can't.
I can think of atleast 5 that he can't.
Sise-neg
Shuma-Gorath
Arch enemy
Zom
Vishanti
listed them in order of power

Originally posted by galactusischere
You do know that Sise-neg was>>>>>>>>>>>>>>LT>>>>>>>IG>>>>>>Abraxas>>Oblivion>>>>>>>>>>>>>.....>elder gods right?

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
nope. there is no proof that he cant eat those beside sise-neg also atum ate beings more powerful than him and became demorge

Originally posted by galactusischere
Shuma in hes realm is like>Eternity.
Him just entering the 616 universe would result in its total destruction.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
this is outside shumas realm. also chthon is stuck in his realm for the same reason.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Shuma can still tank him.
Zom and AE can too.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
nope. there is no proof that he cant eat those beside sise-neg also atum ate beings more powerful than him and became demorge

There's no proof he can. He's the god eater, not the magic eater. Why don't you bring me proof that he can eat Sorcerer Supremes and other mystics. I got a better idea, why don't you bring proof he CAN'T eat Sise-Neg since Atum can eat mystical beings greater than him. Why not Sise-Neg? I guess he can also eat In-Betweener, Chaos, and Order as well then.

Colossus-Big C
firstly
elder gods>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sourceror supremes.

So what, this is the Ancient One we're talking about. Both Strange and Ancient One couldn't removed SG's from his body. Nightmare was an unwilling agent. Why don't you show me proof of the Elder Gods being as powerful? None of the Elder Gods can wreck galaxies by just being in the 616. If they can, show me.

Originally posted by WhiteWitchKing
There's no proof he can. He's the god eater, not the magic eater. Why don't you bring me proof that he can eat Sorcerer Supremes and other mystics. I got a better idea, why don't you bring proof he CAN'T eat Sise-Neg since Atum can eat mystical beings greater than him. Why not Sise-Neg? I guess he can also eat In-Betweener, Chaos, and Order as well then.

So what, this is the Ancient One we're talking about. Both Strange and Ancient One couldn't removed SG's from his body. Nightmare was an unwilling agent. Why don't you show me proof of the Elder Gods being as powerful? None of the Elder Gods can wreck galaxies by just being in the 616. If they can, show me.

Originally posted by Colossus-Big C
hes not eating a unversal balance like the ones you named. but the mystics theres no proof the he can or cant eat it so we cant argue over that
also odin busted galaxys(sky father)
Elder god>>>skyfathers

Yes.
But SG, Zom, and AE are extremely high level mystics. EXTREMELY.

Atum eats Elder Gods and Skyfathers that is his purpose, cube beings and above are out of his reach, even Atum/ Demogorge has limits who he can defeat/absorb.

Originally posted by galactusischere
Yes.
But SG, Zom, and AE are extremely high level mystics. EXTREMELY.

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Zom would rape Atum/ Demogorge
AE no contest
SG in his realm not a chance, outside maybe!
Vishanti -hell to the no! One Vishanti was powerful enough to stalemate Galactus Agammatto.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Vishanti -hell to the no! One Vishanti was powerful enough to stalemate Galactus Agammatto.

lets make this Clear once and for ALL,

Demogorge>>Elder Gods: Oshtur gave birth to Agamotto
Agamotto, Yeah Agamotto is powerful in his Realm but out of if Atum makes the Vishanti his lunch