Rank the top 10 most powerful Mutants in Marvel, of the X-Men world

Originally posted by Psychopath001
Umm... no she didn't.

Her actions in the House of M, completely altering one entire reality crashed Satyrn's (or however you spell her name) tower and caused some trouble, but she didn't alter any reality other than hers, whereas MJJ did. The chaos wave did sweep across, but it didn't actually -change- anything. Imagine 616 as a building where a grenade was thrown, where the main effect took place, and the other realities as the outside where the remnant blast wave is felt.

The Exiles #69 stands as proof that only one reality was affected by her actions as the Exiles themselves, who jump around from reality to reality, had no idea what was going on until they got to 616.

Don't over rate Wanda. She's powerful, but she cannot compare to Mad Jim Jaspers or even Jamie Braddock. Of all the primary reality manipulators, the only person Wanda is actually more powerful than is Franklin Richards. MJJ and JB are more than she ever was or will be.

Just go to her respect thread. Not only did she break down and reestructure the omniverse, she left permanent changes in millions of realities. This is detailed in Endagered Species, as beast and strange look arround for answers in alternate earths; Astonishing X-Men, the Ghost Box story; and Messiah Complex to name a few. It is furhter elaborated on several other storylines, including the captain britain corps.

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The only realities with mutants left untouched were the ones where the x-genes were located in different chromosomes and were ignored by the wave. If they exiles didn't realize anything was wrong until they stumbled upon 616 it was the writer's mistake.

You can't actually use that as verification. I've checked up on it and it's true, but it still doesn't count because she didn't actually do it on purpose. Her power flux created an uncontrolled event that she didn't even know she was bringing about. It happened because of her emotions. MJJ and JB have done things just as bad and worse while still having their focus and powers remain in control without succumbing to anger or misery. What do you think would happen if either of them REALLY flip out? Flip out in the way Wanda did?

Originally posted by Psychopath001
You can't actually use that as verification. I've checked up on it and it's true, but it still doesn't count because she didn't actually do it on purpose. Her power flux created an uncontrolled event that she didn't even know she was bringing about. It happened because of her emotions. MJJ and JB have done things just as bad and worse while still having their focus and powers remain in control without succumbing to anger or misery. What do you think would happen if either of them REALLY flip out? Flip out in the way Wanda did?

Yes, she is emotinonally unbalanced and it was flip out, but as far as raw power is concerned I still don't think they can match her. They are better with fine and voluntary control though.

You can't actually know that. It is common knowledge that emotions lead to heightened release of someone's power, so you can't actually say that they don't match her in raw power since they have actually done the exact same things she has done while remaining docile and she was spouting off without control. Way I see it, it only stands to reason that if they decide to go off as well, it would be much, much worse.

Originally posted by Psychopath001
I REALLY don't agree with this list... for one Protege is above HOM Wanda which is 😖

Secondly, How is HOM Wanda above MJJ? Do you KNOW who Mjj is...?

Jesus Cable shouldn't be under Vulcan, X-Man should not be underneath Onslaught, Jamie Braddock could sure as hell not be underneath Franklin Richards, and Iceman/Storm/Rogue shouldn't even be anywhere near this list.

So...you basically just said that you think MJJ is more powerful than the Living Tribunal 😐

Originally posted by Psychopath001
You can't actually know that. It is common knowledge that emotions lead to heightened release of someone's power, so you can't actually say that they don't match her in raw power since they have actually done the exact same things she has done while remaining docile and she was spouting off without control. Way I see it, it only stands to reason that if they decide to go off as well, it would be much, much worse.

They havent quite done the same thing as she has. Her chaos wave was a bigger deal than their warps (to my knowledge of them). So I give her the raw power edge.

You can't really know if they could match her by flipping out either, it might make sense that they get a boost, but it is speculation and both of them are also crazy and have thrown tantrums. And of course, we don't know whether or not that was her whole power or upper limit, it was just what she did at the time.

Based on feats I go with her.

Mad Jaspers re-emerged during/after the events of HoM. And she actually did what Jaspers was trying to do and reversed it. Why do you say that MJJ was > to Wanda?

Quoting Wikipedia:

Sir James Jaspers is one of the most powerful beings in the Marvel universe, with the power to warp reality. The less powerful Earth-238 version of Jaspers was able to warp his entire universe beyond recognition to such a degree that it became necessary to destroy the Earth-238 timeline completely just to stop the Jaspers' Warp from spreading to other universes. From what Merlyn hinted during his telepathic alert to Captain Britain, the more powerful Earth-616 Jaspers was an omniversal-scale threat whose power would continue to grow exponentially:

"This version of Jaspers. Is too powerful, too dangerous. His counterpart could at least be halted, even if it meant destroying his entire continuum. This one is not so easily containable. And if he cannot be defeated, then the omniverse shall fall into chaos, and a new and hostile god shall play dice with matter."

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Note what the LESS POWERFUL version of MJJ did.

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Honestly? I think the only reason Wanda seems so powerful is because her incidents were a mainstream event. It makes it look like more of a big deal than it really was if you ask me. No doubt Wanda is incredibly powerful, but to say she is more powerful than MJJ? That's pushing the limit.

MJJ was ressurected by Wanda during the events of HOM, but that doesn't count for much because MJJ has ressurected himself at least once before.

What was he trying to do that Wanda did and reversed? I don't know of that.

MJJ is cooler then Wanda though.