english longbowman vs mongol archer

Started by Lord Lucien2 pages

That said, you gotta really give time-traveling props to those guys back then. The Mongols and Longbowmen and their ilk. Hella-skill to make that shit work.

Originally posted by Bicnarok
Saw a science sort of program where some experienced horseback archers rode at a target and fired at it. They were trying to find out if the added velocity of the horse moving forward would add itself in any sufficient way to the arrows velocity, well it didn´t.

But what it did show is that it was very difficult to hit a target on horseback, with the horse wobbling about and all that, I´m sure anyone who has ever rode a horse can appreciate this. Nevertheless in this case the range was about 20 m when they shot the arrow and they had difficulty hitting the large round stationary target.

As for the English longbow, didn´t this originate with the Welsh?

I actually had a go of one once at some medieval festival, you have to be really strong to pull the string back, and do do it multiple times in battle... respect!!!!

English and Welsh, it's never firmly established where it came from 1st... Nor does it matter.

You also can't comapre a horseback archer of today with one of yesteryear because they were a lot better at it back in the day... It was their job... It's no ones job nowadays. Just as an olden-time archer is stronger than one of today, becasue they trained with bows much heavier than those of today.

Originally posted by §P0oONY
English and Welsh, it's never firmly established where it came from 1st... Nor does it matter.

You also can't comapre a horseback archer of today with one of yesteryear because they were a lot better at it back in the day... It was their job... It's no ones job nowadays. Just as an olden-time archer is stronger than one of today, becasue they trained with bows much heavier than those of today.

Well said.

I was going to say something similar. If I were to venture a guess, the average Mongol horse-back archer was loads better than the ones in that show. The best of them would seem super-human to us gun slingers. 😆

Why would the mongol charge straight at the englishconfused1It would take away his advantage of movementdoh

gay

Originally posted by Bicnarok
I actually had a go of one once at some medieval festival, you have to be really strong to pull the string back, and do do it multiple times in battle... respect!!!!

Pulling the string back is bad technique with a longbow, no matter what you might have seen on Time Team. Instead, you should push the actual bow forward. Not only is this easier to do strength-wise, it also significantly improves accuracy.

To answer the question in question, I believe a Mongol horse-archer would certainly have the edge over the longbowman 1-on-1, but in larger numbers the longbowmen would have a field day.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Why would archers be charging at each other?

Indeed.

Originally posted by Robtard
Probably the white-guy then.

why cause he's white. racist.

j/k, hehe.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
why cause he's white. racist.

j/k, hehe.

White-people are awesome, look what they've accomplished throughout history.

i know, right...

genocide, military conquest, american slavery, negotiation deception, natural resource destruction, the transfer of olde world diseases, conspiracies, the fed, interest, the depression, the crash, the ice-capades, Peter North c. shots and more!

No other race'll ever live up, i think.

White Power!

lol.

Originally posted by Robtard
White-people are awesome, look what they've accomplished throughout history.

The European Renaissance and the Plague..... within the span of a hundred years..... kinda hard to judge.....

Don't forget the Crusades. Our shining moments.

Composite bows (horsebows) are generally more efficient and more powerful pound for pound than English longbows. Mongol archers are also more proficient in speed shooting as they need to be able to nock arrows fast while on horseback, whereas English longbowmen are more efficient in firing in disciplined ranks (or as disciplined as can be managed).

In a one on one scenario, the Mongol archer has quite a number of advantages.

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Originally posted by FrothByte
Composite bows (horsebows) are generally more efficient and more powerful pound for pound than English longbows. Mongol archers are also more proficient in speed shooting as they need to be able to nock arrows fast while on horseback, whereas English longbowmen are more efficient in firing in disciplined ranks (or as disciplined as can be managed).

In a one on one scenario, the Mongol archer has quite a number of advantages.

Your necromantic powers are coming along nicely.

Soon we can call him Mannimarco, King of Worms.

So much Anti White Racisim on this board.

Sad to see so many filled with Hate.

And Ignorance.

Well actually the Ignorance is kind of funny.

Originally posted by Surtur
Your necromantic powers are coming along nicely.

Thanks. I need to practice more.

I know I'm a little bit late but the English longbowmen would winthe Mongolian could shoot at 400 yards but only with the second bow that they only used when off there horse and they could not aim at a specific target the one that they used horseback only had a 157 yard range and took a bit to aim the English longbowmen could hit there target at 400yd and fire a minimum of 10 arrows a minute accurately so 1 on 1 English

And the Mongols actually beat the English in large scale battles thanks to the use of superior tactics the English had castles the Mongols had the rest