who hates jar jar binks?

Originally posted by queeq
That seems to be LUcas' remedy in sweet talking the PT: " THere's a lot of fans out there, new fans, that love the new SW". He calls it "a whole new generation" which basically comes down to kids under 9 or so. He says the olde rgeneration loves the OT and a new generation the PT. I can't remember seeing on these pictures from 1977 endless lines of little kids waiting to get into the theatre.

So little kids sub 9 or lower love SW, ergo it's great. Especially Jar Jar, he's the greatest SW character ever. Let's ask these kids again in 15 years or so, will they still love the PT and JarJar?? I doubt it.

Yeah, I didn't like Jar Jar back then, still don't like him today. But I liked TPM back then, and well....I still like it today. 😄 But I know I speak for a very small amount of people there. lol

They are and will never be classic movies.

You're right, the PT's will never be classic movies. The same can also be said for J.J Abrams Star Trek film, which was excellent, but won't go down as a classic 20 years from now, even though it was better than alot of the "Classic" Star Trek films. Keep in mind that I'm not trying to say that the PT is better than the OT, even though I prefer the PT, I can admit that classically speaking, the OT will always hold that position.

I think the word "classic" can open up alot of of good discussion here. 🙂 I think we associate "classic" with the progression of time as well. For example, AVATAR was just released...but is it immediately a classic because of it's success? Not just yet. Is it likely to be a classic 10 years from now? Possibly, if it spawns more sequles that remain popular, than AVATAR will likely become a classic down the road. However, AVATAR could also end up being just a phase...and eventually die out. Indiana Jones was never intended to be a classic....but they turned out that way. They weren't classic's immediately at it's release, but with time and progession, they became just that. The PT most likely won't become classic's over time, considering TPM is already 10 years old. It's even harder for a new generation of movies to become "classics" when you have predecessors to live up to. I mentioned Indiana Jones, but I would only consider the "first three" to be classics. "Kingdom of the Crystal Skull" not so much. But keep in mind in regards to the PT, we're all still here in the prequel section talking about films that have already aged quite signifgantly. Most movies you watch and forget about them, so the PT still has people talking.

The OT set the bar for filmmaking with groundbreaking effects back in the late 70's, early 80's, and that's something even James Cameron will never take away from Lucas.

Well, classic is hard to say. I have no idea where Avatar will end up. It's harder too, people need new things to be wowed and a lot of them. But still, there are still movies that make such an impression that they do become classics.

I was looking at the Empire 250 best movies ever list (from a large poll). It actually does inculde Star Trek, all the OT SW movies but none of the PT. I mean, as a fanboy it's fine to like the PT. But when we look at how well they are made as movies, as stories and how they are told, they are seriously flawed and lack a lot of what the OT has.

Many new fans of SW think Empire is the most boring film of all, yet it's the only SW movie in the top ten of that list. I know lists are not the be all and end all, but it does say something. It says something about how movies made an impression. Movies like Citizen Kane, A Wonderful Life, Silence of the Lambs and even very recent movies like Let the Right One In. The OT has a place among such films, the PT sadly doesn't (but rightfully so). How Avatar will end up? I dunno... history will tell, but it is a fact it is making a BIG impression now. Much more than the PT did.

I don't care... it's just another character.

ok thats it im buying a gun....he wasnt that bad....if you want someone to hate,hate edward cullen what did edward do? nothing what did jar jar do? he helped the jedi get to naboo palace, took out several AAT's and several droids. i dont see the problem....btw umm i dont know if you have heard this word before but COMICAL CHARECTER FOR THE KIDS YOU BRAIN DEAD MORONS.....JEES