Darth Maul versus John Preston.....

Just for you, Dominic 😄

Maul and Preston face off in the Emperor's throne room from ROTJ. The Emperor decides that Vader needs an apprentice, and let's them fight to the death to see who is Vader's new student.

Preston has been trained as a Sith and is armed with a red lightsaber, and has exceptional force powers, (For arguments sake, let's say equal to Maul's), and Maul is as he was in TPM, full of anger, and armed with his dual bladed red saber.

We have no way to guage how powerful Preston would be with the force. But I'd say as is he's more skilled with a blade.

Thread fail.

Preston cannot:

1. Use a lightsaber. It requires you to be force sensitive cept for Grieveous.
2. Use force powers. He doesn't have the force.

Going by onscreen feats AND gimping Maul by giving him just a Katana, Maul still wins, very easily. Battle pre-cog and force powers kind of win this for Maul, easily.

See...even though I am an admitted Preston fanboy, I can still be objective.

But Maul would only win due to having speed of which Preston is incapable of reacting to. Preston is the more skilled swordfighter. I'd say he's also a more skilled martial artist. But yeah, Maul wins. Not because he's better, just because he's more powerful and in a different class.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Thread fail.

Preston cannot:

1. Use a lightsaber. It requires you to be force sensitive cept for Grieveous.
2. Use force powers. He doesn't have the force.

Going by onscreen feats AND gimping Maul by giving him just a Katana, Maul still wins, very easily. Battle pre-cog and force powers kind of win this for Maul, easily.

See...even though I am an admitted Preston fanboy, I can still be objective.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Fail how? read the OP again, he has a saber and has Sith training. He has force powers like Maul has, in addition to his cleric training.

Read my reply again.

The thread fails because:

"Preston cannot:

1. Use a lightsaber. It requires you to be force sensitive cept for Grieveous.
2. Use force powers. He doesn't have the force.

Going by onscreen feats AND gimping Maul by giving him just a Katana, Maul still wins, very easily. Battle pre-cog and force powers kind of win this for Maul, easily."

In other words, you broke the on-screen rule, and you gave him powers he doesn't have.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Read my reply again.

The thread fails because:

"Preston cannot:

1. Use a lightsaber. It requires you to be force sensitive cept for Grieveous.
2. Use force powers. He doesn't have the force.

Going by onscreen feats AND gimping Maul by giving him just a Katana, Maul still wins, very easily. Battle pre-cog and force powers kind of win this for Maul, easily."

In other words, you broke the on-screen rule, and you gave him powers he doesn't have.

OK, let's do two scenarios. Scenario one is what I already posted.

Scenario two: Maul is armed with a katana and the fight takes place where Preston was surrounded at the end of "Equilibrium." No offensive force powers for Maul, just his skill with a sword.

I'd have to give Scenario 2 to Preston then.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, let's do two scenarios. Scenario one is what I already posted.

Scenario two: Maul is armed with a katana and the fight takes place where Preston was surrounded at the end of "Equilibrium." No offensive force powers for Maul, just his skill with a sword.

That breaks the rules, as well. You can't gimp these peeps. They get their on screen feats. The only exception would be alternate versions of the same character (Such as pre "The One" Neo and "The One" Neo.) In that case, you just have to state which version.

"requires you have the force"? no. boba fett and ghez hokan have both used lightsabers with boba even fighting vader briefly.

it is not "required" its just highly recommended because without the finesse given by the force its easy to hurt yourself with the weapon. the force doesnt turn on the lightsaber or anything.

Yo Dadudemon you dont need to be force sensitive to wield a saber

Originally posted by Quincy
Yo Dadudemon you dont need to be force sensitive to wield a saber

You certainly do. Even in the EU. There are very few exceptions.

Originally posted by Ms.Marvel
it is not "required" its just highly recommended because without the finesse given by the force its easy to hurt yourself with the weapon. the force doesnt turn on the lightsaber or anything.

Thanks for further making my point.

Originally posted by dadudemon
You certainly do. Even in the EU. There are very few exceptions.

Thanks for further making my point.

Dude Han uses one in Empire. 😉

Originally posted by dadudemon
That breaks the rules, as well. You can't gimp these peeps. They get their on screen feats. The only exception would be alternate versions of the same character (Such as pre "The One" Neo and "The One" Neo.) In that case, you just have to state which version.

Originally posted by Quincy
Dude Han uses one in Empire. 😉

So, how does this prove that a non-force user can proficiently use a light-saber in bladed combat?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Dude, read the threads here, there are CONDITIONS set in each one, get off the gimp train, it doesn't suit you.

So, you forgot about Imp saying he would close gimp threads?

Edit: Reported. 😐

crylaugh It's not gimping, dude, that requires TAKING AWAY ones powers. 🙄 If anything, what is stated here is anti gimping.

Report away, if it's closed, it's closed.

Originally posted by dadudemon
So, how does this prove that a non-force user can proficiently use a light-saber in bladed combat?

Preston is a proficient swordsman. That's what I'm saying.

Han has no force sensitivity, and yet he was able to turn the blade on, as well as slice open a stomach.

Are you saying if he were to swing it at another saber, it would just turn itself off and be like "No way ***** you ain't using me."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
crylaugh It's not gimping, dude, that requires TAKING AWAY ones powers. 🙄 If anything, what is stated here is anti gimping.

😐

"Scenario two: Maul is armed with a katana and the fight takes place where Preston was surrounded at the end of "Equilibrium." No offensive force powers for Maul, just his skill with a sword."

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Report away, if it's closed, it's closed.

I was just joking. 😆

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

I don't report threads just because I don't like the discussion (sick burn!)...unless it's a sock troll.