Originally posted by Placidity
Fail troll is fail.
Hey, Placidity, despite the fact that we are at each other's throats all the time, I still love you.
Your Versus threads are literally the best in here.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
I thought DDM was gonna hit us up with a buncha stats and shit?
I was. I was busy with real life. School work: Had to write a program in Python that could sort data in a .csv by dynamic input from the user. (in other words, the user specifies what data he or she wants to retrieve, and of what type.) After that, I was running cracks against several different files types in PRTK: I had to create cracking dictionaries from "foreign language" websites using this nifty scanning and seclusion algorithm (because some of the files are in foreign languages.) Cracked 8 out the 10 passwords...gotta figre out the last two. THEN, after that, I was working on a webserver distributed denial of service attack (DDoS) mitigation plan for an extranet webserver.
THEN, I had to play Forza III on the Xbox 360 because that is way more fun than posting on KMC.
I told you all that so others could see how busy I am instead of accusing me of being full of b.s. and was too dumb to figure it out. (like Robtard said and Placidity might think.) I'll post up my python program, my mitigation pre-writeups, and the files and passwords to the files along with the cracking algorithms I designed, if any of you are interested. They should all be dated in one form or another fer evidence! 😆
Originally posted by Robtard
Just an FYI.Neo's speed has already been calculated; it's online. It was brought up during the 'Luke Vs Neo' thread.
Wasn't that just his travel time to save his peeps from the ghost twins, though? That's not the "save trinity" scene. (Unless you're referring to something else.) The save Trinity scene may have a different number. (Though, the number doesn't appear to be as fast as other's see it.)
Originally posted by Robtard
He's probably still gleaning info off the web, so he can then pass it off as his own calculations.
That's B.S. For the train stopping feat, I used my own calculations BEFORE you found what you did. It did it slightly different than they did, but it was basically the same way.
On top of that, I did my own calculations on the dropping speed of the car in Transformers 2, proving that it wasn't a lethal velocity when it hit.
I'd appreciate a tad more respect.
Also, calculating some of these things could be done by a fifth grader. For instance, calculating Neo's speed to reach the other people. "500 miles away" and it's 15 minutes later. The only thing remotely difficult about this is knowing the proper conversion factors....which shouldn't give a smart 5th grader much trouble. 😐
In the one Placidity just did, it is very similar. Cept, it would take measurements, which are probably beyond the abilities of most 5th graders. But it' still dividing distance by time...simple word problem math.
Originally posted by Robtard
He's a smart-guy, I know this.
Thanks.
Originally posted by Robtard
He's also full of shit, many a time.
Rarely if eever.
Originally posted by Mindship
Re: Neo...his speed was entirely virtual, a product of his mindset within the Matrix. All that stuff caught in the Neo Wake: I would say that reflected more the intensity of his desperation to get to Trinity AFAP rather than an accurate simulation of what would've really happened had he pulled that stunt in the material world.
This is similar to my theory. It is just a property of Neo's flying. The clouds follow him when he dives down really fast at the beginning of the film, a well, proving that it isn't a one time occurance.
Originally posted by Placidity
Nah he isn't. Because I already pointed out that if he did, his figures would be much less than what he originally stated (hypersonic). Then I would proceed to post up a self-pwn picture. He knows this.
More baiting? No, I am. And, I said less than 5000 miles per hour. I assume hypersonic, at most.
Originally posted by Placidity
Okay, from opening scene Surfer's speed is at least...* 121 611 273 kmph
* 75 565 741.694 mph
* Mach 99 270
Show you're work.
I don't have the scene with me or at home, so I don't know at what angle he left the planet.
If it was directly from the left or right, that's a really easy calculation to make, based on time, if you assume that planet is the same size as the Earth. (Just have to use "earth diameters" and see how long it takes him to replicate almost an exact earth diameter, check the beginning and end times on the film, and dividing the earth diameter by that unit of time, and convert to the appropriate units.
Earth's Diameter is 12756 km at the equator.
Now, there could be a major flaw in that calculation. If you used the Earth's Diameter at the equater, you have to remember that the earth is a slight Oblate Elipsoid. Thought there diference will probably not change the calculation that much....(but you were specific all the one down to the ones.) On top of this, for a proper physics calculation, you can only be accurate to the first whole number (technically, positive integer, but we know these will be expressed in positive numbers, so I said whole number) as the timing on the dvd/blu-ray player should only be down to he seconds. (I haven't seen one with a tenths or hundreths timer...at least a consumer product.)
Originally posted by Placidity
Okay, from opening scene Surfer's speed is at least...* 121 611 273 kmph
* 75 565 741.694 mph
* Mach 99 270
Show you're work.
I don't have the scene with me or at home, so I don't know at what angle he left the planet.
If it was directly from the left or right, that's a really easy calculation to make, based on time, if you assume that planet is the same size as the Earth. (Just have to use "earth diameters" and see how long it takes him to replicate almost an exact earth diameter, check the beginning and end times on the film, and dividing the earth diameter by that unit of time, and convert to the appropriate units.
Earth's Diameter is 12756 km at the equator.
If you used the Earth's Diameter at the equater, you have to remember that the earth is a slight Oblate Elipsoid. Thought there diference will probably not change the calculation that much....(but you were specific all the one down to the ones.) On top of this, for a proper physics calculation, you can only be accurate to the first whole number (technically, positive integer, but we know these will be expressed in positive numbers, so I said whole number) as the timing on the dvd/blu-ray player should only be down to he seconds. (I haven't seen one with a tenths or hundreths timer...at least a consumer product.)
In other words, all you have to do is two things:
1. Make sure his exit vector was almost exactly perpindicular to the viewer to properly conclude his speed. (If it was at an angle, your calculations could actually be too small...from just a little to a lot.)
2. Show how you arrived at the proper time calculation for his exit. Being off by even tenths of a second can change the calculation by thousands of Kph.
Now, there could be a major flaw in that calculation. How large was the SS's "glow trail" relative to the planet? The planet could have been really small. We need a comparison to another one of his glow trails. (The glow trail/halo of him has to be a relative comparison.)
Someone could say that the "halo" thingie gets bigger the faster he travels. Then, that person has to prove that with in movie feats.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I told you all that so others could see how busy I am instead of accusing me of being full of b.s. and was too dumb to figure it out. (like Robtard said and Placidity might think.) I'll post up my python program, my mitigation pre-writeups, and the files and passwords to the files along with the cracking algorithms I designed, if any of you are interested. They should all be dated in one form or another fer evidence! 😆
Yes, please.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Seriously? Cause I will. 😄 (just have to zip it all up and attach it to a post. WEEEE!)Or are you being an a**hole again?
Edit-
Why didn't you get onto me for "you're" in my post? I can haz disappoint.
Perhaps a bit of both, but please do.
And it did bother me, but I figured no point in calling you out on a typo.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Perhaps a bit of both, but please do.
K.
I'll do it later. I'm at work. Obviously, you can imagine what would happen if I had PFTK on my computer...
I'll add some "logic" to the program just for you, Bardock. (I think I've sent you one of my .java programs before in IM. Was it the simple knapsack program or was it something else? I can't remember.)
Edit - Wait, I may have my mitigiation plans available. I could attach those now...lemme check....
Originally posted by Bardock42
And it did bother me, but I figured no point in calling you out on a typo.
Good. And, it wasn't a typo, it was just me typing too fast and not paying attention: AKA dumb@ss moment.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
You sure it was 45 seconds? Thought it was a few minutes.
Yeah, I watched the scene again. After they discover Doom killed everyone and took the board, Reed soon after remotely calls in the Fantasticar. They have a little chit chat and hurry onto the roof, where it arrives.
Originally posted by dadudemon
Hey, Placidity, despite the fact that we are at each other's throats all the time, I still love you.Your Versus threads are literally the best in here.
😍
Originally posted by dadudemon
More baiting? No, I am. And, I said less than 5000 miles per hour. I assume hypersonic, at most.
And? I said your calculated figure will be less than Hypersonic?
Originally posted by dadudemon
Show you're work.
I don't remember the figures I used last time, but I will do it again. Works out even faster this time.
Travels from the Moon to the lower Troposhere of Earth.
Time taken: 10 secs
Distance from Core of Moon to Core of Earth: 384,403 km
Distance from Core of Moon to lower Troposhere of Earth = 384,403 - Radius of the Earth (6,371) - Distance of lower Troposhere from Surface of the Earth (9 km) = 378,023 km.
Speed = d/t
= 378,023 km / 10 s
= 136 088 280 kmph
* 84 561 336 mph
* Mach 128 123
Originally posted by Placidity
And? I said your calculated figure will be less than Hypersonic?
We don't necessarily disagree. I have my ceiling as a hypersonic guess.
Originally posted by Placidity
I don't remember the figures I used last time, but I will do it again. Works out even faster this time.Travels from the Moon to the lower Troposhere of Earth.
Time taken: 10 secs
Distance from Core of Moon to Core of Earth: 384,403 km
Distance from Core of Moon to lower Troposhere of Earth = 384,403 - Radius of the Earth (6,371) - Distance of lower Troposhere from Surface of the Earth (9 km) = 378,023 km.
Speed = d/t
= 378,023 km / 10 s
= 136 088 280 kmph* 84 561 336 mph
* Mach 128 123
Checked it and it's correct. I came up with 136088280, as well. (All of my assumptions were yours. 9000 meters above the surface of the earth, etc.)
However, your number on the distance is the average to the centers. There is apogee and perigee. That will change your numbers slightly. (It's over 30,000 Km difference...that's roughly an 8% difference.)
Now, that doesn't change much for any of the other characters, though. That's still faster than any of the other characters.
Edit, and to share what I plan to do with my calculations: I plan to use the office windows and/or other objects around Neo that he passes. I can find averages for those items. (This is similar to what the Mythbusters due with objects they launch past their ruler thingie.)