Originally posted by tkitnaCorrect.
This is how I was thinking too. Nova doesnt seem to be on Sentry's level.
Originally posted by dmillsSo what? He had aid against Annihilus and it was right after he tanked the Galactus blast.
Nova hasn't really had a BAD showing and he has tangled with some of the most powerful beings in the universe, even Thanos and Death had to give him his props. And given the fact that he only operates at around 80% capacity, we don't know what a fully amped Nova can do. Yet...
Name some of these beings Nova has squared off against.
Originally posted by dmillsThe Sentry went toe to toe with Photon for a time. Nova couldn't.
True. But what does that have to do with Nova vs Sentry?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Correct.So what? He had aid against Annihilus and it was right after he tanked the Galactus blast.
Name some of these beings Nova has squared off against. The Sentry went toe to toe with Photon for a time. Nova couldn't.
You still at it? Ok I'll bite.
First off, Nova tanked the same Galactus blast while he was shielding 2 others, so what's your point?
Secondly, what help? Phyla-Vell? Please. What a weak attempt to try and obscure the fact that it was Nova's victory.
Lastly and most importantly, you seem to be under the impression that Nova has to go toe to toe like a brick with Sentry. He has other powers at his disposal, namely gravity manipulation. If even a weak Nova centurion, with a mere fraction of Rich's power could overpower a Strontian as powerful as Xenith, What do you think Nova Prime could do? As is touched on in the comics with all the talk about gravimetrics, Nova's can manipulate gravitons. If they can manipulate gravitons, Nova should be able to make Sentry so heavy that he couldn't stand up, breathe or even open his eye's. Nova could surround Sentry with a gravimetric node and collapse the node - crushing the Sentry in on himself to the point where his mass forms a miniature black hole. Or he could simply BFR him via a stargate into the crunch or the Rip.
Nova wins.
At his best, Sentry seems to be Superman level. I know Nova has had a huge upgrade and has the tactical advantage because of worlmind (assuming this is Nova Prime Vs Sentry), but is he as durable as Sentry?? I'm swaying Sentry here because of that. They both can battle at very high speeds, class 100 strength or higher, and have a huge power source. The major thing i think that Bob has over Richie is flat out durability.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17On panel, Nova's durability feats trump Bobs. I listed a few of his durability feats in this thread.
At his best, Sentry seems to be Superman level. I know Nova has had a huge upgrade and has the tactical advantage because of worlmind (assuming this is Nova Prime Vs Sentry), but is he as durable as Sentry?? I'm swaying Sentry here because of that. They both can battle at very high speeds, class 100 strength or higher, and have a huge power source. The major thing i think that Bob has over Richie is flat out durability.
As for your other question I don't know for sure if the OP was referring to Nova as he currently is with only around 80% of the Nova force, or Nova at full power. Doesn't really matter either way, Nova still wins.
Originally posted by dmillsYou seem to be arguing one ability in a cbr type manner.
You still at it? Ok I'll bite.First off, Nova tanked the same Galactus blast while he was shielding 2 others, so what's your point?
Secondly, what help? Phyla-Vell? Please. What a weak attempt to try and obscure the fact that it was Nova's victory.
Lastly and most importantly, you seem to be under the impression that Nova has to go toe to toe like a brick with Sentry. He has other powers at his disposal, namely gravity manipulation. If even a weak Nova centurion, with a mere fraction of Rich's power could overpower a Strontian as powerful as Xenith, What do you think Nova Prime could do? As is touched on in the comics with all the talk about gravimetrics, Nova's can manipulate gravitons. If they can manipulate gravitons, Nova should be able to make Sentry so heavy that he couldn't stand up, breathe or even open his eye's. Nova could surround Sentry with a gravimetric node and collapse the node - crushing the Sentry in on himself to the point where his mass forms a miniature black hole. Or he could simply BFR him via a stargate into the crunch or the Rip.
Nova wins.
No one on this board is going to side with Nova against Annihilus in a forum matchup.
Sentry will be on him like white on rice.
Originally posted by dmillsDo you think Nova could fly into repeated WW Hulk punches and still continue holding his own?
On panel, Nova's durability feats trump Bobs. I listed a few of his durability feats in this thread.As for your other question I don't know for sure if the OP was referring to Nova as he currently is with only around 80% of the Nova force, or Nova at full power. Doesn't really matter either way, Nova still wins.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You seem to be arguing one ability in a cbr type manner.
Yes, he had aid in the form of Phyla Vell. That still took Annihilus' focus off of him. In their first encounter annihilus owned both he and Quasar hard.No one on this board is going to side with Nova against Annihilus in a forum matchup.
Sentry will be on him like white on rice. Do you think Nova could fly into repeated WW Hulk punches and still continue holding his own?
Not arguing in a CBR fashion. These are all things that either Nova Prime himself or other Nova's have done on panel. The thread simply say's "Sentry vs Nova prime with worldmind, fight in space, who takes it?" There are no other stipulations. And furthermore, you seem to want Nova to fight like a brick the way Sentry does. Richard has the power to do it but that's not his style. He fights smart.
Are you saying WWH punches > Galactus annihilation wave blast?
Now, what's Bob going to do to stop himself from being BFR'd into the crunch?
Originally posted by dmillsI'm saying that both the sentry and WW Hulk survive that blast if Nova did so.
Not arguing in a CBR fashion. These are all things that either Nova Prime himself or other Nova's have done on panel. The thread simply say's "Sentry vs Nova prime with worldmind, fight in space, who takes it?" There are no other stipulations. And furthermore, you seem to want Nova to fight like a brick the way Sentry does. Richard has the power to do it but that's not his style. He fights smart.Are you saying WWH punches > Galactus annihilation wave blast?
Now, what's Bob going to do to stop himself from being BFR'd into the crunch?
If WW Hulk punches Nova he's going down and in a hurry.
Bob's millisecond reaction time and energy powers. Nova can't take much of the Sentry. The thing is most on kmc really don't respect the Sentry, but in this particular thread he is winning a comfortable majority. The reason is it's obvious Nova isn't in his power league yet.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I'm saying that both the sentry and WW Hulk survive that blast if Nova did so.
Then you just made my argument for me. If, according to your reasoning, Hulk and Sentry could survive it just because Nova could, then they all have at the very least equal durability. And if they have equal durability, then Nova can take WWH punches because Sentry did.
If WW Hulk punches Nova he's going down and in a hurry.
You can't have it both ways Quan. Stop cheating. 😎
Bob's millisecond reaction time and energy powers. Nova can't take much of the Sentry.
Why didn't his millisecond reaction time stop him from getting his face pounded into hamburger by WWH, punched into orbit by Blue Marvel or blasted off by a Marvel Boy gun? What makes you think that he will react quickly enough to avoid Nova, who has FTL speed and split second reflexes and combat speed?
The thing is most on kmc really don't respect the Sentry, but in this particular thread he is winning a comfortable majority. The reason is it's obvious, Nova isn't in his power league yet.
Well then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Everything that I'm saying about Nova is on panel and with him in character. So when I say he'd open up a stargate and dump Sentry into it, it's because he's done something like it before. When has Sentry manipulated a stargate or any other type of gravitational anomaly that can open up holes in time and space? Sentry can manipulate light, not gravity.
Originally posted by dmillsNo, I am saying if a character with far less durability can tank it a character with far greater durability survives as well.
Then you just made my argument for me. If, according to your reasoning, Hulk and Sentry could survive it just because Nova could, then they all have at the very least equal durability. And if they have equal durability, then Nova can take WWH punches because Sentry did.You can't have it both ways Quan. Stop cheating. 😎
Why didn't his millisecond reaction time stop him from getting his face pounded into hamburger by WWH, punched into orbit by Blue Marvel or blasted off by a Marvel Boy gun? What makes you think that he will react quickly enough to avoid Nova, who has FTL speed and split second reflexes and combat speed?
Well then we'll just have to agree to disagree. Everything that I'm saying about Nova is on panel and with him in character. So when I say he'd open up a stargate and dump Sentry into it, it's because he's done something like it before. When has Sentry manipulated a stargate or any other type of gravitational anomaly that can open up holes in time and space? Sentry can manipulate light, not gravity.
It's true and you know it. The Hulk is out of nova's league.
Because he flew into the Hulk's punches and let loose. He will be flying into the Nova's personal space and will win this and pretty quickly imo.
Sentry throws him into the sun. If you want to just throw random occurrences out there I might as well argue godblast in every single Thor thread.
Originally posted by quanchi112Everything that you just said is either demonstrably false or utterly ridiculous. We'll just have to agree to disagree then.
No, I am saying if a character with far less durability can tank it a character with far greater durability survives as well.It's true and you know it. The Hulk is out of nova's league.
Because he flew into the Hulk's punches and let loose. He will be flying into the Nova's personal space and will win this and pretty quickly imo.
Sentry throws him into the sun. If you want to just throw random occurrences out there I might as well argue godblast in every single Thor thread.
Nova wins.