Doc Samson vs Colossus

Started by Eternal Idol9 pages

So Colossus gets to rip out fistfuls of Samson's hair before using him for a game of hackeysack?

Awesome.

Samson that was upgraded by the Leader and Modok wins. Never really been impressed with Colossus as a strong guy even though he's supposed to be capable of lifting over 100 tons.

Colossus is not made to impress. He's made to worf.

Kinda like Thing, except Thing's dumb, dogged determination and brittle rock-like composition makes for his ass whoopings to come across as far more entertaining than Piotr's.

When Piotr was a teenager he was stronger than she-hulk.

He is much stronger now.

Colossus ftw. Pretty handily if nothing stupid happens, like Kitty running by naked or something.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
When Piotr was a teenager he was stronger than she-hulk.

He is much stronger now.

Colossus ftw. Pretty handily if nothing stupid happens, like Kitty running by naked or something.


Scans?

Colossus isn't impressive at all. He's had like 2 good fights (Gladiator and WWH) in over 30 years.

piotr

Originally posted by zopzop
Scans?

Colossus isn't impressive at all. He's had like 2 good fights (Gladiator and WWH) in over 30 years.

That's far from true.

Yea, he's kayoed Savage Hulk, got the better of War Machine in a H2H fight, tooled She-Hulk, done rather well against classic Juggernaut, held an advantage over Sasquatch at the end of their fight, and was do well against Red Hulk without Cyttorak power.

Originally posted by zopzop
Scans?

Colossus isn't impressive at all. He's had like 2 good fights (Gladiator and WWH) in over 30 years.

Gotta add a decent enough showing against Juggernaut (in casual clothes) to that list, all of which is more impressive than just about anything Ive seen Doc Samson doing. (and most of those was when Peter was young, hes become stronger/tougher since then).

He also took on and beat the "Beast of Badoon", who one shotted Thing after no-selling his strongest punch.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea, he's kayoed Savage Hulk, got the better of War Machine in a H2H fight, tooled She-Hulk, done rather well against classic Juggernaut, held an advantage over Sasquatch at the end of their fight, and was do well against Red Hulk without Cyttorak power.

Well, Iron Man's beaten Savage Hulk too though. And what are the circumstances of this defeat? Was it a "squeaked by, with some support" thing? A straight up KO?

Fighting with Hulk for six hours straight, is imo more impressive then defeating someone like War Machine, Iron Man, or even She Hulk..

And to be honest, Colossus's fight with Gladiator is impressive, but in a way it's also a black mark as Gladiator exists to "Worf" against the elite bricks. That pretty much proves Colossus, while a class 100 in stats, exists on the same tier Thing does, which is basically the "Jobber to the Stars" tier who can put up a fight against the cream of the crop like Hercules, Hulk, Thor, or Namor before losing, but in turn can also be given a good fight by class 50's or lower tier folks a well written Thor or Hulk should destroy (Though there's always the odd case of a class 50 giving Thor or Hulk a fight as well, but I'm talking generally..)

Gladiator one punched Thing though. He didn't do the same to Colossus.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
Yea, he's kayoed Savage Hulk, got the better of War Machine in a H2H fight, tooled She-Hulk, done rather well against classic Juggernaut, held an advantage over Sasquatch at the end of their fight, and was do well against Red Hulk without Cyttorak power.

He didn't KO Savage Hulk, he "stunned" him, and Kitty had to save him before he got hurt.

When did he tool She-Hulk though? I keep hearing this and don't know which incident this is.

As to War Machine, Red Hulk (I'm assuming this isn't LOEBforce Rulk), and Sasquatch, those are OK showings.

Doesn't change my opinion of him though. Colossus isn't an impressive brick at all.

Fighting with Hulk for six hours straight, is imo more impressive then defeating someone like War Machine, Iron Man, or even She Hulk..

+1!

Originally posted by cdtm

Fighting with Hulk for six hours straight, is imo more impressive then defeating someone like War Machine, Iron Man, or even She Hulk..

Colossus kayoed Hulk in a matter of minutes. That's way shorter than 6 hours.

When did normal Colossus ever KO any version of the Hulk?

Originally posted by DTM
When did normal Colossus ever KO any version of the Hulk?
X-Men vs Hulk #1. It was a kayo, Hulk was out cold.

He was sleeping for a few seconds. Piotr's fist reminded him of soft pillows.

Really? Was this an amped Colossus or a weak Hulk? Im a fan of Peter, but no way should he be able to KO pretty much any version of Hulk, IMO.

Originally posted by juggernaut74
X-Men vs Hulk #1. It was a kayo, Hulk was out cold.

No he wasn't. He was stunned (as admitted by Colossus himself). Then he came to and Kitty had to save Colossus.

Doc Samson sucker punched Savage Hulk and put that ass to sleep for several HOURS.

Originally posted by DTM
Really? Was this an amped Colossus or a weak Hulk? Im a fan of Peter, but no way should he be able to KO pretty much any version of Hulk, IMO.
It was teen Colossus and Colossus said that Hulk looked weak but when Colossus attacked he said Hulk was reacting fast and that he wasn't as weak as he thought.