HP Doomsday vs WM Thor w/ belt of strength

Started by Nihilist3 pages

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not if you read jurgens interview.
i dont. i go by what is shown in the comic.

Originally posted by Nihilist
i dont. i go by what is shown in the comic.
How can you ignore the writer's opinion over his own material?

If you wrote a story and I misinterpreted don't you think it would be my comprehension that was incorrect.

Originally posted by Nihilist
HP Doomsday isnt simply getting beat down, he had evolved past that.

What? Where did we see him evolve past getting beat down by someone on this level?

He evolved past being defeated by that Superman etc. but the difference between even regular Classic Thor and that Superman is noticeable. Either Current Superman or Classic Thor would beat down that Superman.

Make Thor 20 times stronger, then in no way, does Hunter Prey evolving past those level of beings indicate that he has evolved past being defeated by this Thor in a slug fest. From what I recall, Doomsday didn't slug it out with anyone any where NEAR this Thor in physical prowess.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How can you ignore the writer's opinion over his own material?

If you wrote a story and I misinterpreted don't you think it would be my comprehension that was incorrect.

They same way i ignore Greg Waks "only Galactus could stop Hulk".If it aint on panel proof it doesnt really mean shit tbh,writers could basically go around saying crap about whatever they feel without having anything too back it up.

thor wins HP DD is not as powerful in comparison to current incarnations of other heros now as he was years ago, current supes would prolly beat him and current supes gets smoked by WM thor with his belt physically anyhow.

Originally posted by Nihilist
They same way i ignore Greg Waks "only Galactus could stop Hulk".If it aint on panel proof it doesnt really mean shit tbh,writers could basically go around saying crap about whatever they feel without having anything too back it up.
Pak never stated only Galactus could defeat the Hulk. Pak can't claim WW Hulk can beat Superman but if he had access to Superman and wrote it then it would be kosher.

Jurgens gave his opinion over his own material. He said an all out Superman probably can put him down. He goes on to reference Superman's upbringing.

Either Current Superman or Classic Thor would beat Hunter Prey Doomsday at least a few times, more so for Thor if he decides to use his versatility and power.

If every match resets as if it was their first fight yet?

Either Current Superman or Classic Thor can get 10/10 against Hunter Prey Doomsday, if they wanted.

Crap is crap. I don't like the stance that bad writing is water-tight just because its considered canon.
Besides If there's one thing I've seen about comics its that writing a character doesn't give you the right to shit all over previously established and accepted conventions just to make a character look good. There's a reason for retcons and there's a reason interviews should be taken with a grain of salt. A writer's personal opinion is always biased toward one character or another. Pak wanted Hulk to beat everyone so that's what happened, doesn't make it acceptable in the least.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Crap is crap. I don't like the stance that bad writing is water-tight just because its considered canon.
Besides If there's one thing I've seen about comics its that writing a character doesn't give you the right to shit all over previously established and accepted conventions just to make a character look good. There's a reason for retcons and there's a reason interviews should be taken with a grain of salt. A writer's personal opinion is always biased toward one character or another. Pak wanted Hulk to beat everyone so that's what happened, doesn't make it acceptable in the least.
Hulk didn't just beat characters up left and right. The writer even explained how Strange could annihilate him at any moment he liked.

Name one example of the Hulk's that was unacceptable. You seem like you want to deny certain things for certain characters which is a very bad debating tactic.