Morg w/WOL and Prime Vs. Superman, Thor, Terrax, Cap marvel(DC) and Surfer

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's wrong with current, non pacifistic Silver Surfer beating regular Prime? Even in close combat he can definitely last for a period of time when Conner and Clark were doing so last time we saw Prime although they were getting beaten in the end. Silver Surfer can harm him with even regular attacks seeing as how heat vision was hurting Prime from Superboy, and a blow from Superman hurt even Trapper Prime. Throw in his ability to drain Solar Energy, radiate Red Solar energy with his blows, and the not holding back attitude, then I honestly don't see the problem with Norrin winning something like 6/10.

Don't get me wrong, he isn't beating him in a straight up fist fight or anything and would get beat down eventually, but throw in his ability to amp, drain, and radiate Prime's weakness and Norrin would beat him. Never said it would be easy.

Heh, that's funny coming from you.

Surfer would never be able to beat Prime.
the only herald that can beat Prime is Morg w/ WOL which is debatable itself

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member
Originally posted by galactusischere
Surfer would never be able to beat Prime.
the only herald that can beat Prime is Morg w/ WOL which is debatable itself

Why not?

He can easily exploit his weaknesses, and seeing as how hits from Conner and Clark were hurting him, a blow from a pissed off Silver Surfer radiating Red Solar energy would seriously rock him while he drains his Solar Reserves.

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Why not?

He can easily exploit his weaknesses, and seeing as how hits from Conner and Clark were hurting him, a blow from a pissed off Silver Surfer radiating Red Solar energy would seriously rock him while he drains his Solar Reserves.

he took on 30 GLs including Hal...
Surfer's like the third strongest herald of galactus..
every single one of those GLs can be comparable to a herald.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member
Originally posted by galactusischere
he took on 30 GLs including Hal...
Surfer's like the third strongest herald of galactus..
every single one of those GLs can be comparable to a herald.

What? He flew through a wall construct those Green Lantern's built and killed a few.

What on Earth do you think was going to happen? That even one of those no named Green Lanterns would slow him down?

You're also apparently forgetting the cannon fodder rule of comics. No matter what they are, when you put together large groups of the same beings, the no name ones become cosmic hand ninjas. It happened to Celestials, to the New Kryptonians, and to the Green Lanterns.

When someone with a name took him on alone, such as Clark or Conner they were doing a lot better.

Weren't they rookie Green Lanterns? Only a few Green Lantern's can take on heralds, and the only Green Lantern post crisis, who has feats that stack up to Norrin's are Kyle's.

After Geoff Johns reboot, it takes a bunch of high end Green Lanterns to bust a planet even.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What's wrong with current, non pacifistic Silver Surfer beating regular Prime? Even in close combat he can definitely last for a period of time when Conner and Clark were doing so last time we saw Prime although they were getting beaten in the end. Silver Surfer can harm him with even regular attacks seeing as how heat vision was hurting Prime from Superboy, and a blow from Superman hurt even Trapper Prime. Throw in his ability to drain Solar Energy, radiate Red Solar energy with his blows, and the not holding back attitude, then I honestly don't see the problem with Norrin winning something like 6/10.

Don't get me wrong, he isn't beating him in a straight up fist fight or anything and would get beat down eventually, but throw in his ability to amp, drain, and radiate Prime's weakness and Norrin would beat him. Never said it would be easy.


First of, Superman Prime isn't losing to Surfer. There is almost no chance in Surfer replicating what Prime has done. People here in the forums give 5/10 to surfer against Hal, or 6/10. Prime easily defeated Hal, Guy, and more then 30(or was it 50) other GL in about 3 panels.
Prime's HV is leagues about Superman's Hv. While Depowered, Prime can pierce Superman's Torso, or even destroy his arm. I doubt it would have a problem doing that to Surfer.
Prime didn't have trouble with Superboy. It still owned Conner in a few hits(like 8), which is not a lot.
He is also immensely resistant to Red Sun light. http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/DC_ComicsPresents087_21.jpg
If you really think it's that easy for Norrin to drain Superboy Prime from his energy can you are clearly delusional. Even when he was depowered, a small amount of sunlight restored him nearly full.

You also seem to think as if this is a fight where Norrin has time to amp, ad gain distance. Prime has shown speed well above speed of light, and he has shown that it in his in character to attack his opponents none stop and not giving them time to really tank, or bulk up. IF you think Surfer will be able to amp, again you are kidding yourself

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Originally posted by xJLxKing
You also seem to think as if this is a fight where Norrin has time to amp, ad gain distance. Prime has shown speed well above speed of light, and he has shown that it in his in character to attack his opponents none stop and not giving them time to really tank, or bulk up. IF you think Surfer will be able to amp, again you are kidding yourself

As much as I agree that Surfer would lose to Prime, I don't agree about the part where Norrin won't have time to gain distance. I still consider Norrin faster (not by much) than Prime travel speed-wise.

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
As much as I agree that Surfer would lose to Prime, I don't agree about the part where Norrin won't have time to gain distance. I still consider Norrin faster (not by much) than Prime travel speed-wise.

Perhaps, yes, but is it really in Surfers nature to keep running from his opponent just to stop to try and amp for a second to the point where his opponent will be right behind him.

D_Dude1210 Doink!
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Perhaps, yes, but is it really in Surfers nature to keep running from his opponent just to stop to try and amp for a second to the point where his opponent will be right behind him.

Depends. Whenever he fights smart, yes. Whenever he fights stupidly, no. It's always been dependent on the writer at the time. He can fly and amp at the same time, tho. He won't be stoppin. 😛

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Depends. Whenever he fights smart, yes. Whenever he fights stupidly, no. It's always been dependent on the writer at the time. He can fly and amp at the same time, tho. He won't be stoppin. 😛

Call me crazy, but I don't see him doing that whatsoever.

Even if he does, still not going to put him on a level where he beats on people like Superman

D_Dude1210 Doink!

Originally posted by xJLxKing
Call me crazy, but I don't see him doing that whatsoever.

Even if he does, still not going to put him on a level where he beats on people like Superman

You mean Superman PRIME right?

Cuz I don't even think he needs to amp to beat standard Superman. :-/

Edit. Already mentioned that he won't beat prime.

xJLxKing Senior Member

No no, I mean, I don't see how Surfer can amp to physically beat on people like Prime does. Do you?

D_Dude1210 Doink!
Originally posted by xJLxKing
No no, I mean, I don't see how Surfer can amp to physically beat on people like Prime does. Do you?
Originally posted by D_Dude1210
Edit. Already mentioned that he won't beat prime.
xJLxKing Senior Member

Okay okay! We are in the same page 😄

D_Dude1210 Doink!
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Okay okay! We are in the same page 😄

He IS faster (travel speed) tho. So there! 😛