HP Doomsday vs Thanos Fist fight

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already told you I disagreed with your opinion about his comments here.

His mallet's magic means his mallet's magic which he possesses. Surfer possesses the power cosmic and he just stated it's more powerful than his power. It's pretty cut and dry and other people have interpreted it the same way as I have and weren't fans of Thor.

Originally posted by darthgoober
And how would that make sense for Surfer to say that Thor was more powerful when Surfer had pretty much just beaten Thor like a redheaded stepchild and at no point witnessed any of the "mallet's magic" other than it's ability to absorb energy blasts and Odin's enchantment that causes it to return to Thor's hand?

The hammer grants you the power of Thor. Surfer only was gaining the upperhand in this arc due to Loki's amp and the fact Thor held back. Thor going all out stomps a hole in the Surfer as seen in blood and thunder.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor held back for one. The next thing is that his hammer was too powerful to be restricted by Surfer's power cosmic meaning it's more powerful.

The hammer grants you the power of Thor. Surfer only was gaining the upperhand in this arc due to Loki's amp and the fact Thor held back. Thor going all out stomps a hole in the Surfer as seen in blood and thunder.

Only if he's amped as he was in Blood and Thunder apparently. Otherwise...

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/comicsage/Silver%20Surfer/Energy%20Manipulation/24.jpg

But at the end of the day this is all irrelevant and off topic for the thread at hand. My only point has been that Surfer never said that Thor was more powerful.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Because he was shown to be physically superior to Superman who unlike Thanos has actual lifting feats that show how strong he is.

And thanos has shown to be stronger than Hulk who has lifting feats that is>>Superman lifting feat.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Surfer didn't know that Thor was holding back when he made the statement, so that reasoning's not proper justification for it. Pretty much no one can keep the hammer from Thor because of Odin's enchantment, that enchantment isn't an indication of Thor's power, it's an indication of Odin's power.

Only if he's amped as he was in Blood and Thunder apparently. Otherwise...

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt80/comicsage/Silver%20Surfer/Energy%20Manipulation/24.jpg

But at the end of the day this is all irrelevant and off topic for the thread at hand. My only point has been that Surfer never said that Thor was more powerful.

Again, his mallet's magic means his mallet's magic is more powerful than the power cosmic. It's his to command just as Surfer's pc is his to use as he sees fit. That doesn't mean Odin's more powerful than Galactus. This has nothing to do with it.

Even if you feel it was an amp even though it wasn't as warlock and company later determined it wasn't warrior madness it's an amp Thor is capable of when going all out. Anyway you look at it you are pegged here.

That statement is being misinterpreted by you, but then again I kinda knew you'd do so.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, meaning he hadn't even seen Thor's full power.

Again, his mallet's magic means his mallet's magic is more powerful than the power cosmic. It's his to command just as Surfer's pc is his to use as he sees fit. That doesn't mean Odin's more powerful than Galactus. This has nothing to do with it.

Even if you feel it was an amp even though it wasn't as warlock and company later determined it wasn't warrior madness it's an amp Thor is capable of when going all out. Anyway you look at it you are pegged here.

That statement is being misinterpreted by you, but then again I kinda knew you'd do so.

The enchantment Odin set that returns Thor's hammer to the his hand you mean? That's obviously a powerful enchantment but that one particular enchantment isn't really an accurate reflection of Thor's overall power.

Not just "going all out" mind you but "completely batshit nuts", even Warrior Madness isn't as impressive as Blood and Thunder Thor. Warlock's fought both and confirmed as much. But if there's ever a thread where Odin Manipulate's Thor like he did before Thor's opponents might be in trouble 😉 .

How many other ways can you think of for the phrase "Thy "warning" came close to slaying us all" exactly? Wait... we're still off topic, take your time and think of a good response and we can go over this and everything else in our Battlezone.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Meaning that it makes no sense to interpret it as Surfer saying that Thor was more powerul than he. You said you disagreed with me about that point before and you think Surfer was actually saying that Thor was more powerful. Hence your earlier statements saying that Surfer's admitted Thor was more powerful.

The enchantment Odin set that returns Thor's hammer to the his hand you mean? That's obviously a powerful enchantment but that one particular enchantment isn't really an accurate reflection of Thor's overall power.

Not just "going all out" mind you but "completely batshit nuts", even Warrior Madness isn't as impressive as Blood and Thunder Thor. Warlock's fought both and confirmed as much. But if there's ever a thread where Odin Manipulate's Thor like he did before Thor's opponents might be in trouble 😉 .

How many other ways can you think of for the phrase "Thy "warning" came close to slaying us all" exactly? Wait... we're still off topic, take your time and think of a good response and we can go over this and everything else in our Battlezone.

Because his warrior madness left him quickly. Warlock also confirmed it wasn't warrior madness prior to Odin so he was going off of past history and later established he was incorrect. Thor had no amps in the storyline until he received the power gem. It's black and white.

We have seen Thor take on Surfer twice in combat with no amps going either way. Surfer was soundly beaten and fled the scene with warlock the other time. When Thor doesn't hold back Surfer can't hang with him.

Don't worry you'll have your day in the battlezone.

Originally posted by carver9
And thanos has shown to be stronger than Hulk who has lifting feats that is>>Superman lifting feat.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nah son, Hulk strained himself lifting part of a mountain (100-something billion tons I believe) whereas Superman has moved much, much more. We all know him to be the strongest out of Wonder Woman, himself, and Martian Manhunter. So when the three of them pulled the Earth its fair to assume he was doing most of the work. The Earth is about 5.9 sextillion tons.

A feat where you need three people means they were all needed to achieve it. Name some of these awesome strength feats I am tired of hearing someone is stronger with no proof to back it up.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again, you interpreted it wrong and wanted to make this about Odin. It's thor's hammer's power he directly referenced.

Because his warrior madness left him quickly. Warlock also confirmed it wasn't warrior madness prior to Odin so he was going off of past history and later established he was incorrect. Thor had no amps in the storyline until he received the power gem. It's black and white.

We have seen Thor take on Surfer twice in combat with no amps going either way. Surfer was soundly beaten and fled the scene with warlock the other time. When Thor doesn't hold back Surfer can't hang with him.

Don't worry you'll have your day in the battlezone.

"matter fact dogg heres a pencil
go home write some shit make it suspensful
and don't come back until something dope hits you
f*ck it you can take the mic home with you"

Originally posted by quanchi112
He's also destroyed something twice the size of the earth. If you think that's the best Hulk can do I suggest reading more Hulk comics.

A feat where you need three people means they were all needed to achieve it. Name some of these awesome strength feats I am tired of hearing someone is stronger with no proof to back it up.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He turned the gears of Maggedon for one, which was much larger than the entire Earth.

Why does everyone dismiss the infinite book feat from FC. It's valid, it's canon, it's perfect 😉.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Why does everyone dismiss the infinite book feat from FC. It's valid, it's canon, it's perfect 😉.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
They failed for one. But yeah moving it at all in the first place proves that Superman is closer to "Infinite strength" than the Hulk has ever been on panel. I honestly believe that PC Superman isn't much stronger than Current, its just that Current holds back and doesn't understand his strength and PC Superman had the ability to move anything he thought he could move, even things that should have crumbled under their own weight.

👆

Originally posted by darthgoober
Again, we can go over all of this in the Battlezone. In the words of B-Rabbit...

"matter fact dogg heres a pencil
go home write some shit make it suspensful
and don't come back until something dope hits you
f*ck it you can take the mic home with you"

Originally posted by Omega Vision
He turned the gears of Maggedon for one, which was much larger than the entire Earth.

Originally posted by Batman-Prime
Why does everyone dismiss the infinite book feat from FC. It's valid, it's canon, it's perfect 😉.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
They failed for one. But yeah moving it at all in the first place proves that Superman is closer to "Infinite strength" than the Hulk has ever been on panel. I honestly believe that PC Superman isn't much stronger than Current, its just that Current holds back and doesn't understand his strength and PC Superman had the ability to move anything he thought he could move, even things that should have crumbled under their own weight.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And we will. That's another ambiguous feat while a weaker Hulk destroyed something confirmed on panel as twice the size of earth.

If he needed help that means he couldn't do it on his own.

Current Superman can't raise his strength exponentially like the Hulk so saying Superman is closer in strength to infinite than say Worldbreaker Hulk is bad logic.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
If its bad logic then its bad logic supported by on panel evidence rather than expository hyperbole. 😛

Originally posted by quanchi112
That's been backed up by comics for Hulk's duration.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Nah son, Hulk strained himself lifting part of a mountain (100-something billion tons I believe) whereas Superman has moved much, much more. We all know him to be the strongest out of Wonder Woman, himself, and Martian Manhunter. So when the three of them pulled the Earth its fair to assume he was doing most of the work. The Earth is about 5.9 sextillion tons.

I agree, he pulled the earth with the aid of flight. Superman strained to move a pyramid. It took the entire kryptonian race to place the moon back into its orbit.

Show me some actual strength lifting feats without him using the aid of flight.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Ah shit dawg don't lie to me, Hulk has never shown that level of strength on panel.