Originally posted by K-Dog
A couple thoughts: If the x-jet cloaking is as good as a Klingon ship, it may enable them to get close enough to the Enterprise for Magneto to crush them (I do believe he could).
Also, as I think about it, I am not sure how well an Enterprise can fly in gravity/atmosphere compared to empty space. I am not sure if this would affect things much anyway.
I was also trying to extrapolate electromagnetic powers for Magneto in order to see if guys thought he could affect sensor range, teleporter capabilities, communication, and maybe even phaser beams.
Also, they can scan for lifesigns.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Magneto cannot destroy the ship instantly. It's made of metal far superior to anything on Earth. Not saying he can't effect it. But he can't kill the ship before he gets blown up. Data can react far faster than Eric can. Data, the ship's computer, Picard, and Geordi are all smarter both tactically and technically. Your putting thousands of minds against one. Magneto has no way of blocking any of the Enterprise' weapons. Not top mention Magneto would be fighting from a distance farther than he can overcome.Magneto soloing the Enterprise? Stop it.
Bring in Dark Phoenix.
I disagree, by far. Adamantium is far superior to that hull. Agreed?
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Question. Let's say Magneto see the Enterprise and says "'You know, I think I am gonna crush that ship." He makes the decision to crush it, raises his hand to do so......How long would it take him to crush the Enterprise?
It took him some time to rip off a section of the Golden Gate Bridge; he was also slow to move it. So it's likely take him a considerably more time to crush a spaceship from the future, this is considering he could keep it in place.
It only takes seconds to lock-on a transport, fire phasers or photon torpedoes. Either of the later would obliterate the X-Jet and all within. I still say transporters for the win, the mutants have no defense against it and they can be targeted from extremely long distances.
There's only one X-men/mutant besides DP that could possibly take on the Enterprise and her crew, Xavier, barring Data isn't onboard.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
We need to now whether or not the Enterprise and X Jet crews have some knowledge of each other.
Per the rules, they have basic knowledge of each other. Which is enough for the Enterprise to find them, target them and transport all their asses into deep space, form miles and miles away.
Originally posted by Robtard
Per the rules, they have basic knowledge of each other. Which is enough for the Enterprise to find them, target them and transport all their asses into deep space, form miles and miles away.
OK, so NC can just TP Magneto onto the bridge, Magneto crushes the bridge, NC TP's him out.
Pwned.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
OK, so NC can just TP Magneto onto the bridge, Magneto crushes the bridge, NC TP's him out.Pwned.
Na, your little scenario is full of holes.
Nightcrawler has only been shown to teleport a few miles at most, the Enterprise can take them out from thousands of miles.
Magneto couldn't crush the bridge in a few seconds; he's also be killing himself in the process. If he somehow got in with a TP(very unlikely), he'd have phasers disintegrate him or he could get transporters into space.
You should really stop saying "pwned", until you actually have something logical.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
No, I mean taking out the X Jet. If NC got aboard the Enterprise, they would never touch him.
Enterprise could obliterate the X-Jet with either phasers or photon torpedo; from a very great distance too. I prefer the transport everyone inside into space though.
Yeah, NC would wreck shit if he got inside; it's doubtful though. Data likely give him some trouble, if they met.
Originally posted by Rogue JediI don't know. But just by you asking this confirms a win for the Enterprise. The ship will fire long before Magneto can do any serious damage. But, as Robtard said, it did take considerable effort for him to move the GGB.
Question. Let's say Magneto see the Enterprise and says "'You know, I think I am gonna crush that ship." He makes the decision to crush it, raises his hand to do so......How long would it take him to crush the Enterprise?
Originally posted by dadudemonNot sure. But the movies take place like 400 years after our time so........
I disagree, by far. Adamantium is far superior to that hull. Agreed?
Besides, that's if.........Magneto can get past the force field. 😛
Originally posted by Rogue JediYou can't beam onboard a ship which has its force field up and running. This being a battle, both opponents having knowledge, Riker will likely have the shields up.
OK, so NC can just TP Magneto onto the bridge, Magneto crushes the bridge, NC TP's him out. Pwned.
Originally posted by Rogue JediIf........Nightcrawler boarded the vessel, yes, it'd be very difficult for him to be stopped by regular security. However, Data would have Spider-Man level strength, speed atleast on par with Blade, a chasis composed of duranium, incredible senses, unparalleled intelligence, and the ships computer which he could use for force fields and to track Nightcrawler.
No, I mean taking out the X Jet. If NC got aboard the Enterprise, they would never touch him.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
Not sure. But the movies take place like 400 years after our time so........Besides, that's if.........Magneto can get past the force field. 😛
Well, we know how strong Tritanium is more than 20 times as hard as a diamond. That aired in the original series, Star Trek, in season 2, episode 18.
We know that wolverine's claws cut through a thick steel blast door like it was butter.
It's hard to say (pun intended), but I would give it to adamantium, hands down. (Simply because of the "mystique" surrounding adamantium being virtually indestructible.)